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   XPost: alt.religion.hindu   
   From: dalton@nfld.com   
      
   On Nov 27, 2019, dale wrote   
   (in article<963utel6hseu75re2eh573misn4qoh7tdq@4ax.com>):   
      
   > What are the metaphysics that explain suffering and an ending of   
   > suffering.   
   >   
   > Here is one that makes some sense to me ...   
   >   
   > “You are not IN the universe, you ARE the universe, an intrinsic part   
   > of it. Ultimately you are not a person, but a focal point where the   
   > universe is becoming conscious of itself. What an amazing miracle.”   
   >   
   > Eckhart Tolle, A New Earth   
      
   I think saying that “I am one with the universe” is stupid. I am   
   a subset of the universe, though that does not necessarily   
   imply that my consciousness is a subset of the consciousness   
   of the universe, which itself is a subset of the universe. And   
   I believe that the universe was conscious long before the   
   human species was around.   
      
   Also you posted to alt.religion.pantheism, which is not in   
   my newsgroups list, instead of talk.religion.pantheism, which is.   
      
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   David Dalton dalton@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)   
   http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)   
   “‘Early morning jubilators/Up to no good instigators.../Sons of long   
   forgotten races/That the darkest night embraces.” (Hynes/O'Doherty)   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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