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   Message 9,905 of 11,893   
   oxtail to Allen Barker   
   Re: many ways to read someone   
   13 Aug 10 13:21:51   
   
   XPost: talk.religion.buddhism, alt.zen, alt.philosophy.zen   
   XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy   
   From: oxtail@nowhere.org   
      
   Allen Barker wrote:   
      
   > On 08/12/2010 02:31 PM, oxtail wrote:   
   >> Catawumpus wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> oxtail:   
   >>>   
   >>> [Apannaka Sutta]   
   >>>   
   >>>> Just think for a while what the Buddha was trying to do there,   
   >>>> please. Was he trying to prove the existence of the next world?   
   >>>   
   >>>       According to the Apannaka Sutta, the Buddha firmly asserts   
   >>> the existence of the next world -- "there actually is the next world"   
   >>> -- teaches that to say so is right speech, and goes on to distinguish   
   >>> "the good destination" from "the bad destination," all of which goes   
   >>> missing from the misreading you insist on.   
   >>>   
   >>>> Or was he trying to prove the usefulness of his Dharma?   
   >>>   
   >>>       In the Apannaka Sutta the Buddha says the statement "there   
   >>> is a next world" is "true Dhamma."  So the next world's existence is a   
   >>> part of his dhamma as he describes it here:  the part you keep   
   >>> ignoring.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> According to a Mahayana sutra,   
   >> you can get enlightened   
   >> by sleeping with a certain prostitute.   
   >>   
   >>   
   > You can also get a nasty case of VD.   
   >   
   > Some prostitutes freely choose to be sex workers.   
   >   
   > Others, however, are people who are abused, exploited, and treated as   
   > nothing but a commodity. They are often trafficked, like "back" in the   
   > days of the slave trade.   
      
      
   Case by case, always.   
   Your chance of meeting that Bodhisattva is   
   probably nil until you are awakened.   
      
   Believe it or not,   
   I was making a point that   
   you should not read sutras too literally.   
      
   --   
   Oxtail is not doing what he thinks he is doing here.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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