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   From: oxtail@nowhere.org   
      
   Catawumpus wrote:   
      
   > oxtail :   
   >   
   >> Do you believe everything you read? You really should learn to think   
   >> for yourself.   
   >   
   >      Do you always lie and dodge, or merely when the scriptures   
   > don't read the way you'd prefer them to?  We've been discussing what the   
   > Apannaka Sutta says, not whether to believe what's said there.   
   >   
   >      In the sutta the Buddha claims that "There actually is the   
   > next world."  He calls the assertion there actually is the next world   
   > "right speech."  He talks about the good destination and the bad one.   
   > Etc.   
   >   
   >      You don't gotta believe what the Buddha says there or even   
   > that the Buddha said so.  But misrepresenting the sutta to make it   
   > conform to your beliefs is dishonesty of a very obvious kind.   
      
      
   Didn't I say the Buddha might have   
   believed in the next world?   
      
   Do you think he wanted us   
   to pull out "the arrow"   
   or to analyze its construction in detail?   
      
   --   
   Oxtail is not doing what he thinks he is doing here.   
      
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    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)