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   oxtail to zenworm   
   Re: The supreme teaching (was Re: fear,    
   13 Aug 10 15:52:40   
   
   3ab1891d   
   XPost: talk.religion.buddhism, alt.zen, alt.philosophy.zen   
   XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy   
   From: oxtail@nowhere.org   
      
   zenworm wrote:   
      
   > On Aug 13, 7:32 am, Catawumpus  wrote:   
   >> Jigme Dorje :   
   >>   
   >> >> OK, you win. Everybody's an idiot except you.   
   >>   
   >>      Definitely idiotic of you to think your little circle adds   
   >> up to everyone.   
   >>   
   >> > > I first noticed this phenomenon in Korea where the person who   
   >> > > shouts the loudest wins the argument. But it happens here too,   
   >> > > without the shouting. The means justify the ends, and if you have   
   >> > > to twist the oher person's words, throw around invalid arguments to   
   >> > > confuse the issue and misrepresent the others positions, that's ok,   
   >> > > just as long as you get the last word in - it's a battle of   
   >> > > attrition.   
   >>   
   >>      Funny thing is that I just lately handed you the last word   
   >> in roughly half-a-dozen places and returned to politely ignoring you --   
   >> same thing I was doing before you grabbed me by the arm and started   
   >> preaching.  Result:  only a day or so later you're back again,   
   >> following-up my posts in order to kick and fuss.   
   >>   
   >> zenworm :   
   >>   
   >> > Perhaps Catawumpus is   
   >> > a woman who has lost a child   
   >> > and suffers from the anger of grief.   
   >>   
   >>      Perhaps zenworm speculates about me because he's unable to   
   >> address what I've said.  When last heard from he was busy making   
   >> excuses, stamping his feet, and referring to examples he hadn't given.   
   >>   
   >> -- Catawumpus   
   >   
   >   
   > Perhaps you are terminally ill?   
   >   
   > Is there anything this worm can do to help?   
   >   
   > It is said 'time heals all wounds',   
   > but that does not seem true.   
   > All that seems to happen in time   
   > is learning to live with wounds and scars. That ownership causes   
   > suffering.   
   > The only way to end suffering is to 'put down'* the identity that   
   > resists this Moment. (by ownership of expectations and other things) The   
   > emotional anguish of refusing accepting. is sometimes displaced into   
   > argumentativeness... Cater(wumpus)wauling?   
   >   
   > *put down:   
   > - to release hold of something held   
   > as in placing 'it' on the ground so as to divest oneself of it.   
   > - to put a suffering beast out of its misery as in euthanasia/mercy   
   > killing.   
   > - to bring attention to a feature having a less than desirable result on   
   > behalf of its owner.   
   >   
   > Put it all down.   
   >   
   > "This katana is sharp.   
   > The long years of its use   
   > have made these helping hands strong." - Nemo Toda   
   >   
   > ^~   
      
      
   Let's see why this is not skillful enough.   
   Anyone?   
      
   --   
   Oxtail is not doing what he thinks he is doing here.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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