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   oxtail to Jigme Dorje   
   Re: The final determination (was Re: The   
   13 Aug 10 15:59:47   
   
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   From: oxtail@nowhere.org   
      
   Jigme Dorje wrote:   
      
   >   
   > "Awakening" of course is only a word, and is usually used as one of   
   > those words people say to make an artificial goal, and to invent excuses   
   > to push it further away from them into the future. In fact, it is right   
   > here and now.  We may all experience glimpses of it. It really isn't   
   > anything so special; it's quite ordinary, not melodramatic in the least.   
   >   
   > But neither is it superficial, part of the horizontal experience of   
   > life. It is part of the vertical experience, that of depth, and so it   
   > can only be experienced when one is wearied of the horizontal. When you   
   > are thoroughly tired of suffering, of the charade that life can bring   
   > you satisfaction on the level of surface, you will experience the "big   
   > bang," or its opposite, the big implosion into emptiness.   
      
      
   I have to agree with Tang   
   that you are not there yet.   
   But you do appear to have practiced   
   talking to yourself a lot.   
   Do you work with koans?   
      
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