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   From: oxtail@nowhere.org   
      
   Jigme Dorje wrote:   
      
   > On Aug 13, 11:59 am, oxtail  wrote:   
   >> Jigme Dorje wrote:   
   >>   
   >> > "Awakening" of course is only a word, and is usually used as one of   
   >> > those words people say to make an artificial goal, and to invent   
   >> > excuses to push it further away from them into the future. In fact,   
   >> > it is right here and now.  We may all experience glimpses of it. It   
   >> > really isn't anything so special; it's quite ordinary, not   
   >> > melodramatic in the least.   
   >>   
   >> > But neither is it superficial, part of the horizontal experience of   
   >> > life. It is part of the vertical experience, that of depth, and so it   
   >> > can only be experienced when one is wearied of the horizontal. When   
   >> > you are thoroughly tired of suffering, of the charade that life can   
   >> > bring you satisfaction on the level of surface, you will experience   
   >> > the "big bang," or its opposite, the big implosion into emptiness.   
   >>   
   >> I have to agree with Tang   
   >> that you are not there yet.   
   >> But you do appear to have practiced   
   >> talking to yourself a lot.   
   >> Do you work with koans?   
   >>   
   >   
   > Your practice changes. It becomes more direct.   
      
      
   Hopefully from soliloquy to public cases.   
      
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