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   XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy   
   From: oxtail@nowhere.org   
      
   Jigme Dorje wrote:   
      
   > On Aug 13, 12:41 pm, oxtail  wrote:   
   >> Jigme Dorje wrote:   
   >> > On Aug 13, 11:59 am, oxtail  wrote:   
   >> >> Jigme Dorje wrote:   
   >>   
   >> >> > "Awakening" of course is only a word, and is usually used as one   
   >> >> > of those words people say to make an artificial goal, and to   
   >> >> > invent excuses to push it further away from them into the future.   
   >> >> > In fact, it is right here and now.  We may all experience glimpses   
   >> >> > of it. It really isn't anything so special; it's quite ordinary,   
   >> >> > not melodramatic in the least.   
   >>   
   >> >> > But neither is it superficial, part of the horizontal experience   
   >> >> > of life. It is part of the vertical experience, that of depth, and   
   >> >> > so it can only be experienced when one is wearied of the   
   >> >> > horizontal. When you are thoroughly tired of suffering, of the   
   >> >> > charade that life can bring you satisfaction on the level of   
   >> >> > surface, you will experience the "big bang," or its opposite, the   
   >> >> > big implosion into emptiness.   
   >>   
   >> >> I have to agree with Tang   
   >> >> that you are not there yet.   
   >> >> But you do appear to have practiced   
   >> >> talking to yourself a lot.   
   >> >> Do you work with koans?   
   >>   
   >> > Your practice changes. It becomes more direct.   
   >>   
   >> Hopefully from soliloquy to public cases.   
   >>   
   > Beyond both.   
      
      
   Good for you.   
   Is a mountain just a mountain, yet?   
      
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