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From: daletx@gnusguy.com
Jigme Dorje wrote:
> On Aug 13, 1:14 pm, oxtail wrote:
>> Jigme Dorje wrote:
>>> On Aug 13, 12:41 pm, oxtail wrote:
>>>> Jigme Dorje wrote:
>>>>> On Aug 13, 11:59 am, oxtail wrote:
>>>>>> Jigme Dorje wrote:
>>>>>>> "Awakening" of course is only a word, and is usually used as one
>>>>>>> of those words people say to make an artificial goal, and to
>>>>>>> invent excuses to push it further away from them into the future.
>>>>>>> In fact, it is right here and now. We may all experience glimpses
>>>>>>> of it. It really isn't anything so special; it's quite ordinary,
>>>>>>> not melodramatic in the least.
>>>>>>> But neither is it superficial, part of the horizontal experience
>>>>>>> of life. It is part of the vertical experience, that of depth, and
>>>>>>> so it can only be experienced when one is wearied of the
>>>>>>> horizontal. When you are thoroughly tired of suffering, of the
>>>>>>> charade that life can bring you satisfaction on the level of
>>>>>>> surface, you will experience the "big bang," or its opposite, the
>>>>>>> big implosion into emptiness.
>>>>>> I have to agree with Tang
>>>>>> that you are not there yet.
>>>>>> But you do appear to have practiced
>>>>>> talking to yourself a lot.
>>>>>> Do you work with koans?
>>>>> Your practice changes. It becomes more direct.
>> a m
>>>> Hopefully from soliloquy to public cases.
>>> Beyond both.
>> Good for you.
>> Is a mountain just a mountain, yet?
>>
>> --
>> Oxtail is not doing what he thinks he is doing here.
> A mountain, not a mountain, more than a mountain, fully a mountain
Oh, Juanita!
DT
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