XPost: talk.religion.buddhism, alt.zen, alt.philosophy.zen   
   XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy   
   From: niunian@ymail.com   
      
   On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 15:50:40 +0000 (UTC), oxtail    
   wrote:   
      
   >Catawumpus wrote:   
   >   
   >> oxtail :   
   >>   
   >>> Sorry, I was not doing   
   >>> what you think I was doing.   
   >>> I was looking for what the Buddha   
   >>> actually wanted us to do.   
   >>   
   >>      Oh?  That's interesting, because the way I've heard it you   
   >> aren't doing what you think you're doing.  ("Oxtail is not doing what he   
   >> thinks he is doing here.")  You've been giving an interpretation of the   
   >> Apannaka Sutta that tries to deny the Buddha teaches the existence of   
   >> the next world as he's depicted there.   
   >>   
   >>      So happens that you're mistaken, since the sutta describes   
   >> him saying "there actually is the next world," stating the "there   
   >> actually is the next world" is "right speech," declaring that the   
   >> proposition "there actually is the next world" is "true dhamma,"   
   >> referring to "the good destination" and "the bad destination," etc.   
   >>   
   >>> Do you think he wanted us   
   >>> to believe whatever he said?   
   >>   
   >>      I think that you have trouble facing up to what he says in   
   >> the Apannaka Sutta.   
   >   
   >   
   >You are trying to boil the cookbook   
   >to make a soup out of it.   
      
   Poor loser.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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