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From: oxtail@nowhere.org
Jigme Dorje wrote:
> On Aug 13, 1:14 pm, oxtail wrote:
>> Jigme Dorje wrote:
>> > On Aug 13, 12:41 pm, oxtail wrote:
>> >> Jigme Dorje wrote:
>> >> > On Aug 13, 11:59 am, oxtail wrote:
>> >> >> Jigme Dorje wrote:
>>
>> >> >> > "Awakening" of course is only a word, and is usually used as
>> >> >> > one of those words people say to make an artificial goal, and
>> >> >> > to invent excuses to push it further away from them into the
>> >> >> > future. In fact, it is right here and now. We may all
>> >> >> > experience glimpses of it. It really isn't anything so special;
>> >> >> > it's quite ordinary, not melodramatic in the least.
>>
>> >> >> > But neither is it superficial, part of the horizontal
>> >> >> > experience of life. It is part of the vertical experience, that
>> >> >> > of depth, and so it can only be experienced when one is wearied
>> >> >> > of the horizontal. When you are thoroughly tired of suffering,
>> >> >> > of the charade that life can bring you satisfaction on the
>> >> >> > level of surface, you will experience the "big bang," or its
>> >> >> > opposite, the big implosion into emptiness.
>>
>> >> >> I have to agree with Tang
>> >> >> that you are not there yet.
>> >> >> But you do appear to have practiced
>> >> >> talking to yourself a lot.
>> >> >> Do you work with koans?
>>
>> >> > Your practice changes. It becomes more direct.
>> a m
>> >> Hopefully from soliloquy to public cases.
>>
>> > Beyond both.
>>
>> Good for you.
>> Is a mountain just a mountain, yet?
>>
> A mountain, not a mountain, more than a mountain, fully a mountain
What mountain?
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