XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.christian.religion, alt.christ   
   et.christianlife   
   XPost: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic, alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,   
   alt.atheism   
   XPost: alt.buddhism, alt.religiontaoism, alt.current-affairs.muslim   
   From: bd@phyl.con   
      
   On 7/27/2018 12:15 AM, Attila wrote:   
   > On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 21:44:51 -0700, Bud Dickman  in   
   > alt.atheism with message-id <6rx6D.373030$o43.131274@fx33.iad> wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 7/26/2018 6:32 PM, Attila wrote:   
   >>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 17:08:43 -0700, Bud Dickman  in   
   >>> alt.atheism with message-id  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 7/24/2018 12:10 AM, Attila wrote:   
   >>>>> On Sat, 21 Jul 2018 19:41:56 -0400, #BeamMeUpScotty   
   >>>>>  in alt.atheism with message-id   
   >>>>> <9xP4D.453288$br4.63128@fx34.iad> wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On 7/21/2018 7:47 AM, David Hartung wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> you   
   >>>>>>>> have presented no reasoned argument that the "human life" and   
   >>>>>>>> "person-hood" are two different things.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> A person is an individual human that has environmental experiences.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> That has been born alive.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> False.   
   >>>   
   >>> Personhood is defined by law.   
   >>   
   >> No.  No, definitely it is not.   
   >   
   > Of course it is.   
      
   No, of course it is not.   
      
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Someone on a deserted island is still a person without any other persons   
   >>>>>> around. A person hooked to a Dialysis machine to keep them alive is a   
   >>>>>> person NOT a parasite and NOT a part of the machine, they are an   
   >>>>>> individual person.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> All have been born alive.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Not the criterion for personhood.   
   >>>   
   >>> Yes, it is.   
   >>   
   >> No, it is not.   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>> As is a human life inside a uterus where Alcohol fetal syndrome can   
   >>>>>> change the person by way of our interaction.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> But while the species is human it is not a yet a human being.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> It definitely is a human being.   
   >>>> https://www.princeton.edu/~prolife/articles/wdhbb.html   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Again, a prolife source   
   >>   
   >> /ad hominem/, and also false.   
   >   
   > It has the word in the address.   
      
   Irrelevant.  Princeton University is not a "prolife" university.   
      
   You are unable to refute their factual statements.  That's obvious.   
      
   >>   
   >> The developing baby is a human being.  This is established scientific fact.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)