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   From: b_d@phil.con   
      
   On 7/27/2018 2:37 PM, Attila wrote:   
   > On Fri, 27 Jul 2018 08:24:44 -0700, Bud Dickman  in   
   > alt.atheism with message-id <2PG6D.533283$RM2.258881@fx05.iad> wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 7/27/2018 12:07 AM, Attila lied:   
   >>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 21:43:12 -0700, Bud Dickman  in   
   >>> alt.atheism with message-id  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 7/26/2018 6:15 PM, Attila lied:   
   >>>>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 16:55:30 -0700, Bud Dickman  in   
   >>>>> alt.atheism with message-id  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On 7/26/2018 4:25 PM, Attila lied:   
   >>>>>>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 14:35:24 -0700, Bud Dickman  in   
   >>>>>>> alt.atheism with message-id  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On 7/26/2018 1:22 PM, Attila lied:   
   >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 11:57:16 -0700, Bud Dickman  in   
   >>>>>>>>> alt.atheism with message-id  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> On 7/25/2018 7:17 PM, Attila lied:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 17:58:27 -0700, Bud Dickman  in   
   >>>>>>>>>>> alt.atheism with message-id    
   wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/25/2018 4:58 PM, Attila lied:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 14:35:27 -0700, Bud Dickman  in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> alt.atheism with message-id    
   wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/25/2018 1:27 PM, Attila lied:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 13:20:10 -0700, Bud Dickman    
   in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alt.atheism with message-id    
   wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/24/2018 12:10 AM, Attila lied:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 21 Jul 2018 19:41:56 -0400, #BeamMeUpScotty   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  in alt.atheism with message-id   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <9xP4D.453288$br4.63128@fx34.iad> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/21/2018 7:47 AM, David Hartung wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have presented no reasoned argument that the "human life"   
   and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "person-hood" are two different things.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A person is an individual human that has environmental   
   experiences.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That has been born alive.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not according to the applicable laws,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This isn't about the law.  Personhood is first and foremost a   
   moral   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> dimension.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Legal is all that matters.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> No, that's false.  Moral precedes legal.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> I ignore legal.  I go to jail.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> I ignore moral.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> No, you don't.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> But if I do, what happens?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> You don't.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> You are ignoring the question.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> It's a stupid digressive question.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> So you can't answer it.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> There's nothing to answer.   
   >   
   > I see you clipped my response here.   
      
   There was almost nothing meaningful in it.   
      
   > Enough is enough.  I do not intend to waste my time with a dishonest   
   > liar such as yourself who insists on editing what I say   
      
   Have it your way, crybaby.  There was no "editing".  Chopping out your   
   tedious wheeze while leaving in your essential - but wrong - point is   
   perfectly ethical.   
      
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