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   Message 12 of 41   
   searching to Dan Barker   
   Re: The Bottom Line of Religion   
   08 Sep 03 05:50:38   
   
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   From: searching@rm.org   
      
   I used to be a very strong believer in the bible and the Christianity   
   "group" I was with for many years.   
      
   I found that when I truly sought God with fasting as was biblical, as Jesus   
   and Moses did... that the closer I got to God, the more I realised that God   
   is far greater than rules and love is the most important thing... The   
   conviction  that God is love and that man does not know what they are doing,   
   and through ignorance causes many of his own troubles, even in the name of   
   God. The conviction that all man are one kind, mankind, and that all are   
   brothers and sisters in the greater whole. Its all about practical   
   workings... love and forgiveness is what works.   
      
   Perfect Love casts out all fear   
   Love covers a multitude of sins.   
      
   It seems very much that Jesus was very against the religious system of his   
   day, but could not outwardly speak against as he would have put walls up   
   with many people... He had to go along with a lot of it to show them how to   
   "drive it" so to speak.   
      
   Love and forgiveness... Sowing and Reaping... these where the main things   
   Jesus taught... and anything beyond these is Bondage which weighs people   
   down...   
      
   Seek the Holy Spirit and you will find Truth... and it is the Truth that   
   sets you FREE from the bondage of religion, ritual and rules... the law of   
   liberty is in the heart   
      
   Instead of getting caught up on to worship or not to worship Jesus, try   
   listening to his words and applying them practically... he said, "Blessed is   
   he who hears my words and does them." He said, "This is the wole law and the   
   prophets... love God with all your being, and love your neighbour as   
   yourself." That is the essence of all this teachings... when you are loving   
   everyone, even your enemies, you are said to be perfect as your Heavenly   
   Father is perfect... and remember if he is your Father, then you are his   
   child, making you also of his being-type, makes us also gods. Hence we all   
   came forth from the Father and we will all return to the Father... We and   
   the Father are one in spirit. So we should perhaps listen to Jesus and   
   realise he is our brother.   
      
   Seems God must be justice, and as such he can not condemn someone who is   
   innocent based on their ignorance... I.E. you don't condemn a child who is   
   molested by a stranger do you? The biblical story put the naiveness of Adam   
   & Eve about the same when compared to the ancient serpent, who knew how to   
   trick them. Seems we should know more about the power of words to convey   
   ideas which have "chain reactions" and sow some peace... and this means YES   
   YOU... everyone, no one is exempt... everyones words have an effect on what   
   can be chain reactions... So lets keep it sweet and loving... and   
   encouraging... and then we will be changing the world for the better... (we   
   must be blind if we think we do not cause things)   
      
   --   
   Peace is within, and is projected outwardly.   
   Searching... for eternal truths...   
      
      
   "Dan Barker"  wrote in message   
   news:LyidnXpqXf51gdOiXTWJjQ@comcast.com...   
   > "Sammer"  wrote in message   
   > news:vof3b.2912$_F1.467901@news20.bellglobal.com...   
   > > The near-death experience reveals that people do not go to heaven by   
   > worshipping   
   > > Jesus, or by believing in his name, or by believing in the cross, or by   
   > > accepting him as our Savior. The way to heaven is through love.   
   >   
   > You are basing your assumptions on the experiences, real or otherwise, of   
   > those who "nearly died." Your conclusions, however, fall apart because   
   your   
   > study has no data from the other control group, i.e., those who actually   
   > died. It isn't at all surprising that individuals who weren't prepared to   
   > die felt a force of love had something to do with an experience which   
   > culminated in their being given a second chance at life. The question is,   
   > what do those who weren't ready to die, yet did, have to report?   
   >   
   > Dan Barker   
   > http://www.findhim.org   
   >   
   >   
      
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