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   Message 13 of 684   
   Allan Svensson to All   
   The whole Body of Christ is Baptized wit   
   15 Aug 03 07:40:51   
   
   From: allan-sv@algonet.se   
      
          The whole Body of Christ is Baptized with the Holy Spirit   
      
   "For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we   
   be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all   
   made to drink into the one Spirit." 1 Cor. 12:13. I'll ask. Which   
   constitute this one body? Answer: All those who are baptized by the   
   one Spirit. We can also turn over the question. How many members   
   of the body are baptized by the Holy Spirit? Answer: ALL. "For by   
   one Spirit are we all baptized..."   
      
   No matter how we are turning the word "all" in this context, it must   
   include all those who belong to the body. These are all baptized by   
   the same Spirit. A person, who is not baptized by the Holy Spirit,   
   cannot belong to the Body of Christ.   
      
   In 1 Cor. 12:29-30 we also find the word "all". Do you think that   
   these verses include any others than the verse 13 ? These verses   
   29 and 30 tell us that, among all those who are baptized by the   
   Holy Spirit and who constitute the Body of Christ, not all speak   
   in tongues. There are different kinds to speak in tongues, but that   
   cannot change what that is written in the verse 30. Do all speak   
   with tongues?   
      
   In the Body of Christ it is not all that speak in tongues, but all   
   those who belong to the Body of Christ are baptized by the Holy   
   Spirit. This Spirit, which we have received, is a seal for the day of   
   redemption. Without this seal anyone is not ready when Jesus   
   comes. Eph. 1:13-14, 4:30, 2 Cor. 1:22. Gal. 3:14. "Now if any   
   man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his." Rom. 8:9.   
      
   In Acts 1:8 says Jesus, "But ye shall receive power, after that the   
   holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me ..."   
   Many Christians mean that the baptism with the Holy Spirit is only   
   some equipment and a power to witness about Jesus and to serve   
   him. Then this power to testify about Jesus would be a "sign" of   
   the baptism by the Holy Spirit like much as the speaking in tongues.   
   Yet, many who speak in tongues do not show any special power or   
   frankness to testify about Jesus.   
      
   Many Christians trust more in their preachers than in the Bible.   
   They are not examining the sermons if they are according to the   
   Bible. Instead of believing in the Bible direct, they believe what   
   people have said about the Bible. Largely their Bible-knowledge   
   consists of a doctrine about the Bible. Accordingly, they have a   
   doctrine about the doctrine. They take out the one bible-word   
   after the other to confirm the doctrine they have about God's word.   
      
   Within the Pentecostal Movement, and even in other churches, they   
   have a teaching about what the Bible teaches about the baptism by   
   the Holy Spirit. They are so fixed to this teaching that they cannot   
   think that it is any fault with that. When they read in the Bible   
   about the baptism by the Holy Spirit, then they have this thought   
   already when they open the Bible, that all those who are baptized   
   by the Holy Spirit must speak in tongues, and those who don't have   
   this "sign" are not baptized by the Holy Spirit. They presume this   
   doctrine before they consult the Bible. Therefore, they cannot see   
   or understand what the Bible teaches regarding the baptism by the   
   Holy Spirit.   
      
   They misunderstand their own experience. They have once   
   received Jesus as their personal Saviour and have been born anew.   
   Since, perhaps after many years, they have got the gift to speak in   
   tongues. Then they think that this was the baptism by the Holy   
   Spirit. For now they have the "sign".   
      
   A fact is that they received the Holy Spirit as a gift already when   
   they were born anew. When we are born again, then we are born   
   into the Body of Christ, and we belong to God's family. Eph.   
   2:19. In the Body of Christ, there is everyone baptized by the   
   Holy Spirit. Even those who don't speak in tongues.   
   1 Cor. 12:13, 30.   
      
   The baptism by the Holy Spirit is not the same as to get the gift   
   to speak in tongues though many get this gift at once when they   
   become baptized by the Holy Spirit. The baptism by the Holy   
   Spirit is more than so. It also includes the new birth.   
      
   A limited knowledge of the baptism in the Holy Spirit causes a   
   limited and wrong view of the Assembly of God. The Assembly   
   of God is only those who have received Jesus Christ as their personal   
   Saviour, independent of the Pentecostal Movement, churches and   
   denominations.   
      
      
   Please, visit my Web Site and read these articles:   
   22.Gospel and Theology   
   23.Why must many Christians wait long time for the Baptism with   
   the Holy Spirit?   
   24.The Promise of the Spirit that Jesus "forgot"   
   25.The Whole Body of Christ is Baptized with the Holy Spirit   
   26.God's Spirit gives us life   
      
      
   http://www.algonet.se/~allan-sv/CONTENTS.HTM   
      
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