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|    Allan Svensson to All    |
|    The whole Body of Christ is Baptized wit    |
|    15 Aug 03 07:40:51    |
      From: allan-sv@algonet.se               The whole Body of Christ is Baptized with the Holy Spirit              "For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we       be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all       made to drink into the one Spirit." 1 Cor. 12:13. I'll ask. Which       constitute this one body? Answer: All those who are baptized by the       one Spirit. We can also turn over the question. How many members       of the body are baptized by the Holy Spirit? Answer: ALL. "For by       one Spirit are we all baptized..."              No matter how we are turning the word "all" in this context, it must       include all those who belong to the body. These are all baptized by       the same Spirit. A person, who is not baptized by the Holy Spirit,       cannot belong to the Body of Christ.              In 1 Cor. 12:29-30 we also find the word "all". Do you think that       these verses include any others than the verse 13 ? These verses       29 and 30 tell us that, among all those who are baptized by the       Holy Spirit and who constitute the Body of Christ, not all speak       in tongues. There are different kinds to speak in tongues, but that       cannot change what that is written in the verse 30. Do all speak       with tongues?              In the Body of Christ it is not all that speak in tongues, but all       those who belong to the Body of Christ are baptized by the Holy       Spirit. This Spirit, which we have received, is a seal for the day of       redemption. Without this seal anyone is not ready when Jesus       comes. Eph. 1:13-14, 4:30, 2 Cor. 1:22. Gal. 3:14. "Now if any       man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his." Rom. 8:9.              In Acts 1:8 says Jesus, "But ye shall receive power, after that the       holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me ..."       Many Christians mean that the baptism with the Holy Spirit is only       some equipment and a power to witness about Jesus and to serve       him. Then this power to testify about Jesus would be a "sign" of       the baptism by the Holy Spirit like much as the speaking in tongues.       Yet, many who speak in tongues do not show any special power or       frankness to testify about Jesus.              Many Christians trust more in their preachers than in the Bible.       They are not examining the sermons if they are according to the       Bible. Instead of believing in the Bible direct, they believe what       people have said about the Bible. Largely their Bible-knowledge       consists of a doctrine about the Bible. Accordingly, they have a       doctrine about the doctrine. They take out the one bible-word       after the other to confirm the doctrine they have about God's word.              Within the Pentecostal Movement, and even in other churches, they       have a teaching about what the Bible teaches about the baptism by       the Holy Spirit. They are so fixed to this teaching that they cannot       think that it is any fault with that. When they read in the Bible       about the baptism by the Holy Spirit, then they have this thought       already when they open the Bible, that all those who are baptized       by the Holy Spirit must speak in tongues, and those who don't have       this "sign" are not baptized by the Holy Spirit. They presume this       doctrine before they consult the Bible. Therefore, they cannot see       or understand what the Bible teaches regarding the baptism by the       Holy Spirit.              They misunderstand their own experience. They have once       received Jesus as their personal Saviour and have been born anew.       Since, perhaps after many years, they have got the gift to speak in       tongues. Then they think that this was the baptism by the Holy       Spirit. For now they have the "sign".              A fact is that they received the Holy Spirit as a gift already when       they were born anew. When we are born again, then we are born       into the Body of Christ, and we belong to God's family. Eph.       2:19. In the Body of Christ, there is everyone baptized by the       Holy Spirit. Even those who don't speak in tongues.       1 Cor. 12:13, 30.              The baptism by the Holy Spirit is not the same as to get the gift       to speak in tongues though many get this gift at once when they       become baptized by the Holy Spirit. The baptism by the Holy       Spirit is more than so. It also includes the new birth.              A limited knowledge of the baptism in the Holy Spirit causes a       limited and wrong view of the Assembly of God. The Assembly       of God is only those who have received Jesus Christ as their personal       Saviour, independent of the Pentecostal Movement, churches and       denominations.                     Please, visit my Web Site and read these articles:       22.Gospel and Theology       23.Why must many Christians wait long time for the Baptism with       the Holy Spirit?       24.The Promise of the Spirit that Jesus "forgot"       25.The Whole Body of Christ is Baptized with the Holy Spirit       26.God's Spirit gives us life                     http://www.algonet.se/~allan-sv/CONTENTS.HTM              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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