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|    Allan Svensson to All    |
|    Baptism by the Holy Spirit and the New B    |
|    17 Jun 08 07:05:23    |
      From: allan-sv@algonet.se               Baptism by the Holy Spirit and the New Birth                     Most Christians have not understood the truth of the baptism       by the Holy Spirit. They have understood it only partly, and       the little they have understood they have turned back to front.       They mean that we must be born again before we can be       baptized by the Holy Spirit. They do not understand that it is       when Jesus baptizes us by the Holy Spirit we get the new life       in Christ and we become born again. The Holy Spirit gives us       the new life in Christ and make the new birth. We are born       of the Spirit. John 3:3-8.              Those who have not understood the truth of the baptism by       the Holy Spirit, they neither have understood the connection       between the new birth and the baptism by the Holy Spirit.       When are people born again? When Jesus baptizes them by       the Holy Spirit. The Spirit gives them the new life in Christ,       so that they become born again.              They have preached that the baptism with the Holy Spirit is       only for those who are born again. Yet, on the day of Pentecost       the apostle Peter promised people, which were not born again,       that they would get the Holy Spirit as a gift when they did       repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Consider,       that Peter promised the Holy Spirit to people who had not       been born again! And when they received the Holy Spirit,       what happened then? Well, then they got the new life in       Christ and became born again!              A preaching which creates doubt and uncertainty cannot be of       God. Many Christians do not understand that Jesus has baptized       them by the Holy Spirit, just because they have listened to a       wrong preaching about the baptism by the Holy Spirit. Many       have believed in Jesus and been saved for many years, and so       they wonder why Jesus has not baptized them by the Holy Spirit.       Why is only a little part of all Christians baptized by the Holy       Spirit?              Here we see that the truth of the baptism by the Holy Spirit is       entirely incompatible with the doctrine they have in the       Pentecostal churches and other free churches. They believe       that people can be members in the Assembly of God without       being baptized by the Holy Spirit. This is contrary to what the       Bible teaches. In the Assembly of God we are all baptized by       the same Spirit, not only those who are speaking with tongues.       1 Cor. 12:12-30. Those who do not are speaking with tongues,       they can have other gifts of grace.       They have preached that only those who are speaking with       tongues are baptized by the Holy Spirit, and that the gift to       speak with tongues is the only safe sign that a person is       baptized by the Holy Spirit. This is dangerously denying a       work of the Holy Spirit, and legalization of false speaking       with tongues.                     In a Pentecostal church they are sitting in a meeting and make       decision for membership in their so-called Assembly of God.       And which are those who become selected as members. They       are people that Jesus has baptized by the Holy Spirit so that       they have been born again, and accordingly already belong to       the Assembly of God. Those become selected as members in       a Pentecostal church, in something they call "the Assembly       of God."              People become registered in something which is not any       Assembly of God. It is only called so. Teaching about the       Assembly of God is essential for new saved people, but       instead they become enticed in a false copy of the Assembly       of God. In that way Satan's false assembly doctrine does       function. It diverts attention from the Assembly of God.              What the Bible teaches about the Assembly of God, this they       apply to churches and denominations, which not at all are any       assemblies of God. Because of this, the members never hear       any sermon or any teaching about the Assembly of God.       Instead to take care about the Assembly of God, the preachers       take care of these false copies of the Assembly.              When people receive Jesus and be saved, and other Christians       experience revival and renewal, then the devil wants to ensnare       them and make them sleepy again. Where it is a false doctrine,       there are also the evil spirits working to keep people bound to       the false doctrine, and therewith hinder them to understand       God's word.              To be able to expose and combat the false assembly doctrine       of Satan, we must study what the Bible teaches about the       Assembly of God. The Bible does not mention a word about       any free churches or their assemblies. They are so unbiblical       as the infant baptism of the church. In the Bible the local       assemblies have no names. They are mentioned according to       the cities and places where they lived. There was no assembly       named Corinth and none named Rom or Ephesus.              In daily speaking and writing we use many words which do       not occur in the Bible. We use the words we need. A word or       a way of expressing does not need be wrong only because it       does not occur in the Bible. Yet, we must consider what the       words imply, and if they are suitable in the context in which       people usually use the words. It is important that we use a       correct way of expressing. We cannot use the word "church"       or "free church" when we mean the Assembly of God, then       it becomes wrong.              Allan Svensson                     If you have any questions after reading of this article       Please, visit my Web Site       http://www.algonet.se/~allan-sv/INDEX.HTM              The Promise of the Spirit that Jesus "forgot"       http://www.algonet.se/~allan-sv/PAGE24.HTM              The Whole Assembly of God is Baptized with the Holy Spirit       http://www.algonet.se/~allan-sv/PAGE25.HTM              The New Birth       http://www.algonet.se/~allan-sv/PAGE19.HTM              We are Born into the Assembly of God       http://www.algonet.se/~allan-sv/PAGE20.HTM              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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