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|    Allan Svensson to All    |
|    The Church. The Greatest Deceit in the H    |
|    17 Nov 03 08:23:10    |
      From: allan-sv@algonet.se               The Church. The Greatest Deceit in the History of the World              Most people think that the Church is the same as the Assembly of       God, the Body of Christ, but it is not the same. This word "church"       is an improper word for those who believe in Jesus and love him.       The Greek word "ekklesia" that is translated to "church", means       "called out", and those who are "called out" are only those who       believe in Jesus and have received him as their personal Saviour.       Please, read John 15:18-21.              The word "church" occurs not at all in the Bible. "The Assembly of       God" is a better name of those who love Jesus. Nowhere in the       Swedish Bible can we find the word "church" (kyrka). I never use       the word "church" or "kyrka" when I mean those who believe in       Jesus. In the year 1981 we got a new Swedish translation of the       New Testament where they have used the word "kyrka". This       translation is a falsification with many grave perversions of the       bible word. I would never give such a bible to anyone.              In everyday speech we use many words which we don't find in       the Bible. We may use the words that we need to use. When we       speak about revival, we use the word revival, and when we speak       about the church we use the word church. Nevertheless, we cannot       use the word church when we speak about the body of Christ.              Some Christians have sent E-mails and meant that I ought not to       use the Assembly of God as a name of the Body of Christ, because       many Pentecostal Churches use this name. Nevertheless, when I       use the Assembly of God as a name of the Body of Christ, then I       do right. But those who have taken this name and use it on their       churches, they do wrong. The Assembly of God is the Body of       Christ, and no church. I do not avoid this name only because many       use it on their churches. The church members think the churches are       assemblies of God. They may read 1 Cor. 12:13, Eph. 1:22-23, 5:23,       Col. 1:18, and consider, is this the same as the Body of Christ?       Perhaps it is only a church?! This may be a challenge against the       whole religious harlot-élite.              What is a church? It is an organized institution. And what is the       Assembly of God, those who have received Jesus as their Saviour?       It is a LIVING ORGANISM. Please, read 1 Cor. 12:11-31. It is an       essential difference between an organization and an organism, and       we must make a clear distinction between the Assembly of God and       the churches of this world.              In so called Christian books and newspapers we can read about       Catholics and about the pope as if they are Christians. Pentecostalists       also can have meetings with Catholics and have fellowship with them.       This witness about very great ignorance about the Catholicism and       what the Catholic Church in the reality is.              The pope is not more Christian than Hitler and Stalin were. The       pope's simulating to being a Christian makes him very treacherous.       The Church and the doctrine he represents are the worst deceit in       the history of the World.              Regarding the churches it is a great lack of knowledge among the       Christians. When representatives for the Church made the same       false pronouncement about the Christian's situation in the Soviet       Union as the communist leaders, then many Christians were       astonished and thought it was strange. Nevertheless, if we know       what the Church is, then we are not at all astonished when a priest       or a bishop stands up and lie. That is what we can expect from the       Church. This is the Church!              I read in a sheet of paper that representatives of the Church in       Russia were forced to lie, and they did not dare stand for the truth.       But the real representatives of the Church are not compelled to lie.       They lie of their own free will, and like willingly as the communist       leaders in the Soviet Union did. That was not only so that the       Church did not dare tell the truth. Instead it is so that the Church       has no interest to stand for the truth!              A usual argument in defence of the churches is, there are many       Christians within the churches who really want to live for God,       and therefore we cannot condemn the churches. We could use the       same argument concerning the Communism in the former Soviet       Union. There were many real Christians in the prisons in the Soviet       Union, and therefore we cannot condemn the Communist dictatorship.       There are many Christians within the churches but it cannot justify       the churches because the Christians are bound to the churches by a       false doctrine. If they knew what the churches are, then they would       flee from there.              Within the Catholic Church the confession is an effective method       to hold control over the people. In that way the Church can have       knowledge of people's private life and can exploit them. The       Catholics think, if they hide something for their confessor, then       they cannot get forgiveness and come to lose their soul. This is       only fright propaganda and lies from the Church. The Church has       no authority to forgive sin, and the priests have no freedom to say       what they think. The pope and the Church determine what they       permit the priests to say and they have to only obey.              We do not need to confess before any man to get forgiveness for       our sins. We may pray direct to God in the name of Jesus Christ.       "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our       sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." 1 John 1:7-10,       2:1-2. We shall not tolerate any other confessor than God himself       and Jesus Christ. "For there is one God and one mediator between       God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom       for all, to be testified in due time." 1 Tim. 2:5-6.              If you want to clear up your sake before God and receive forgiveness       for your sins, then it is a matter between you and God, and nothing       for the Church to interfere. The Church has nothing to do with that.       Remember this! For the churches, it is no grace before God. They       have no share in Jesus' expiatory death on the cross, and they can       never receive forgiveness. When Jesus died on the cross he opened       a way to God for men, but not for Satan's churches! The churches'       falseness and hypocrisy must get its judgement.              "Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the       blood of Jesus, By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated       for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh; And having a high       priest over the house of God; Let us draw near with a true heart in       full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil       conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water."       Hebr. 10:19-22.              The salvation is a gift that God gives us of grace, without our merit.       "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves:       it is the gift of God: Not by works, lest any man should boast."       Eph. 2:8-9. 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