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|    Allan Svensson to All    |
|    The Promise of the Spirit that Jesus "fo    |
|    24 Jul 03 08:42:41    |
      From: allan-sv@algonet.se               The Promise of the Spirit that Jesus "forgot"              The Pentecostalists have preached about the baptism with the Holy       Spirit and they are proud and mean that the Pentecost Revival has       conveyed this truth. Nevertheless, it was God's Spirit himself who       revealed this truth, and he did it before the Pentecost Movement       existed.              Please, observe what the apostle Peter says on the day of Pentecost.       He says that they would receive the Holy Spirit as a gift. Observe,       it is the Holy Spirit himself that is the gift. Accordingly, it is not       only the experience of the baptism with the Holy Spirit that is the       gift. Gal. 3:2. (Here is the Swedish Bible more plain).              Please, observe also when they received the gift, already the same       day! They were not needed to wait for the gift for several months or       years. And when they received the Spirit as a gift, what happened       then? Then they received the new life in Christ and were born again!       When you are born again, you are born of the Spirit. John 3:8.              Do you now understand what that implies? It implies that the truth       of the baptism with the Holy Spirit has been valid all the time ever       since the apostles received this gift! Many Christians think that the       baptism with the Holy Spirit was forgotten during a very long time,       and that it was not until the 20th century, that Jesus did resume this       activity to baptize the believers with the Holy Spirit.              Such an opinion is quite contrary to the Bible. The truth is, that       Jesus all the time has baptized his people with the Holy Spirit.       And we need not search in any old history books to find out it       because it is written clearly in the Bible! For the promise is unto       you, and your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many       as the Lord our God shall call. Acts 2:39.              Do you think that Jesus forgot this promise of God after any       hundreds of years, and right until the beginning of the 20th century?       In that case all the Christians who have lived during all these       centuries would have not got the Holy Spirit that God had promised.       Eph. 1:13. Yet, the promise of the Spirit was valid for those as well       as for us, and as well as for the first Christians! As many as the       Lord our God shall call. "And the purpose of it all was that the       blessing of Abraham should in Jesus Christ be extended to the       Gentiles, so that we might receive the promised Spirit through       faith." Gal. 3:14. (The New English Bible).       Acts 2:33. Eph. 1:13.              What Peter told on the day of Pentecost has functioned all the       time since then. When people have done repent and been baptized       in the name of Jesus Christ, then they have also received the       promised Spirit as a gift. In John 14:16-17 Jesus says, "And I will       pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he       may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the       world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth       him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in       you " Ever since Jesus' first disciples received the Holy Spirit on       the day of Pentecost; the Holy Spirit has been present in the       Assembly of God all the       time.              They have preached that the gift to speak in tongues, is the only       sure "sign" of the baptism by the Holy Spirit. It is not true. Please,       read Acts the 2nd chapter. There we see that the first sign was,       a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled       all the house where they were sitting. This was a very clear sign       of the baptism by the Holy Spirit.              The second sign that is mentioned was, tongues like as of fire,       and it sat upon each of them. This was also a clear sign of the       baptism by the Holy Spirit. And the third sign was that they       began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them       utterance. It was usually earthly languages that the people       understood. As we can see in the Bible, there were people in       Jerusalem with several languages and each one heard them       speaking in his own native language. (All speaking in tongues       is not of this sort. Please, read 1 Cor. 14th Chapter).              Here we have three clear signs of baptism by the Holy Spirit.       Two signs that everyone heard; a sound from heaven as of a       rushing mighty wind, and speaking in tongues; and one sign       that they could see, tongues of fire. Why have many been so       fixed at just the speaking in tongues, as if this were the only       sure sign of the baptism by the Holy Spirit?              There is a doctrine that says that everyone who is baptized by       the Holy Spirit must speak in tongues. This doctrine cannot be       proved with help of the Bible because this doctrine is not       pronounced anywhere in the Bible. Those who stand up for       this doctrine, they do in the same way as those who stand up       for the so-called infant baptism. They take out some quotations       from the Bible and try to find out a proof of their own doctrine.              Both this doctrine and the doctrine about the so-called infant       baptism are like sleeping-tablets. These doctrines hinder people       to free thinking, and hinder them to study of the Bible.              Some Christians have written letters to me in defence of this       wrong doctrine. Of all their arguments, I have found no one that       stands before God's word. And of what I have written about the       baptism by the Holy Spirit, they have not been able to refute       anything.              The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God's       children. Rom.8:16. This, that we experience the testifying       of the Holy Spirit in our hearts, is a sure sign that we have       received the promised Spirit. Gal. 3:14. I had this sign long       before I got the gift to speak in tongues. But while I was in       the Pentecostal Movement I heard repeatedly that I was not       baptized with the Holy Spirit. Sometimes they said that I was       it, and sometimes they said I was not. When I had left the       Pentecostal Movement I also received the gift to speak in       tongues.                            Do you want to read the continuation of this article       or if you have any questions       Please, visit my Web Site                     http://www.algonet.se/~allan-sv/CONTENTS.HTM              (Article 24)              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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