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|    Allan Svensson to All    |
|    The Holy Spirit    |
|    26 Jun 04 07:07:19    |
      From: allan-sv@algonet.se               The Holy Spirit              Some mean that the Holy Spirit is no person, but only a power that       God uses. But Jesus speaks about the Holy Spirit as a person. He       says in John 16:13-14, "Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come,       he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but       whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew your       thing things to come. He shall glorify me: for he receive of mine, and       shall shew it unto you." An impersonal power can neither speak       nor hear.              We can read in 1 Cor. 12:11, "But all these (gifts) worketh that one       and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will."       The Spirit has his own will, something that an impersonal power       cannot have.              If the Holy Spirit is no person, what then is the spirit of man? When       a man is dead, the dead body is no person. Our spirit is our personality       and when our spirit has left the body, our personality is away from the       body.              The evil spirits are intelligent beings though they have no physical       bodies. They can use people and speak through them. Please, read       Mark 1:23-34. Luke 8:27-33. In Acts 19:15 we can read about an       evil spirit who said, "Jesus I know, and Paul I know, but who are ye?"       Accordingly, the evil spirits have knowledge. In Matt. 12:43-45 we       see that the evil spirits have their own will. They want to have       physical bodies to live in. When now a spirit of man is a person and       the evil spirits are persons, why would the Holy Spirit be only an       impersonal power?              But how can a person be poured out? In Joel 2:28-29 the Lord says,       "I will pour out my spirit ..." And in Acts 2:14-21 Peter refers to Joel       and says, "And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will       pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and daughters shall       prophesy ..." And in 1 Cor. 12:13 Paul writes, "... and that one Holy       Spirit was poured out for all of us to drink."       (The New English Bible).              I do not understand how this person, the Holy Spirit can be poured out,       but I believe as the Bible teaches. God's pouring out of his Spirit, and       Jesus' speaking about the Holy Spirit as a person, does not need to be       incompatible only because we do not understand it. God is infinitely       greater than us, and we understand very little of him. No human       language can describe how God is. In the Bible we can read that God       has characteristics that we are unable to understand. God is everywhere       present. For in him we live and move and have our being. Acts 17:28.       Yet, he can look down from heaven upon us. Psalm 53:2.              In Matt. 12:31-32 says Jesus something remarkable about the Holy       Spirit. "All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men:       but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto       men. And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall       be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it       shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world       to come." And in Mark 3:28-29 Jesus says, "Verily I say unto you,       All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies       wherewith soever they shall blaspheme: But he that blaspheme       against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of       eternal damnation."              If the Holy Spirit is only an impersonal power, why then has he such       an authority, so that it is more dangerous to sin against the Spirit,       than to sin against Jesus or the Father himself?                     If you have any questions after reading of this article       Please, visit my Web Site              http://www.algonet.se/~allan-sv/CONTENTS.HTM              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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