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|    waltzgreen to All    |
|    a beginning illustration    |
|    11 Nov 04 23:09:53    |
      From: waltzgreen@fuse.net              I'm no expert; I am guessing that many religions start with an illustration.       The person who becomes the founder sees something in the world around him,       something that makes sense in physical and spiritual ways. An illustration       of how the physical world is comparable to the spiritual world or       vise-a-versa. After some time a group of illustrations are stitched       together into a system of thought.                            There are illustrations I would like to start with.                            Imagine a forest after a fire. Everything is scorched. Yet it does not       stay dead. As soon as possible new life springs forth. Imagine a rocky       outcropping. See how trees and other plants grow in strange ways, hard       ways; any way they can to establish a foothold of life. Think how       tenaciously life grows between the cracks in cement or asphalt. And not       just in hard places, life grows in extreme places. Life grows around hot       vents in the ocean floor. Life grows in boundaries between hot and cold,       fresh water and sea water. Why would life need to develop special organisms       just to live in the boundary between fresh water and sea water? Why can't       life just leave some places devoid of life? Why does it try so hard to live       everywhere it possibly can?                            Why? Why would it do this? If the world was created by a God primarily       interested in the afterlife of human souls, why would it want or even need       life to be so diverse and grow in places man might never even see? Surely       there are places where the pursuit of life has no bearing on the support of       human life. Why waste the time and energy designing life to grow in all       these strange places. And why have such diversity? All you would really       need is the minimum to sustain human activity. In fact less diversity would       be better. The life around the humans would just be incidental. The only       thing being salvaged from this world is human souls. Why invest more than       is necessary in anything else?                            To me it does not appear that the non-human life is just incidental. We can       feel, see and know there is some purpose to it. There is a reason it needs       to be there. The old saying would be that everything exists for the Glory       of God. Yet not all life speaks of Glory. A good bit of it speaks of       desperation, desperate to survive and grow. It the purpose of all life is       Glory, why is survival and growth more important that Glory?                            Now if the simplest explanation is most likely the right answer, then we       should look for a simple answer to this mystery. Why is survival and growth       under any and all circumstances so important? That, which appears to be the       strongest natural life-force, perhaps is the strongest natural life-force.       And if the physical world is the way it is for the benefit of the divinity       beyond it, perhaps the divinity beyond needs as much life as possible to       survive and grow where ever possible.                            Now why would such a force need as much life as possible? Not just human       souls, but life in any and all kinds. What if the natural world was       injected with such a survival instinct because the force beyond was itself       consumed with self-survival. What if the force beyond life, received some       benefit from any and all kinds of life.                            What if that which was beyond was not a perfect, self-contained,       all-powerful divinity. What if it, itself was a living being that needed       energy to sustain itself, to grow itself?                            What if there was a force or forces that were sustained by the living       bio-energy in the universe. Such a force would seek to promote any and all       life for its own self-survival. This is especially so if such a force could       not sustain itself completely without living bio-energy to support it.                            Such a force could be well familiar with basic building blocks of life, from       cells up through body systems. It would have some ideas of what it could       combine to produce life that would survive and grow under various       conditions. Such a force or forces would be motivated to generate a wide       range of diverse living organisms. It would be sustained by the living and       dying of the bio-mass. It would be interested in generating balanced       systems that sustained long term bio-mass stability. Without perfect       knowledge or absolute power, such a force would have successes and failures.       These would include families of living things that were dead ends as well as       families that made it for various lengths of time.                            Would not such a system of a life-needing force fit well with the natural       world we see around us?              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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