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   From: pedro@border.com   
      
   On 29 Jan 2025, Rudy Canoza  posted some   
   news:s1umP.83921$oCrf.53221@fx33.iad:   
      
   > On 1/29/2025 9:43 AM, Francis Mark Hansen , sleazy   
   > rent-skip chaser, possible polygamist and irrational gun nut, lied:   
   >   
   >> On 1/28/2025 11:45 PM, Attila wrote:   
   >>> On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 12:33:02 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>> No, I have proved that unlawful presence in the U.S. is not   
   >>>> a crime. You're just too stupid and too much of a loser to get it.   
   >>>   
   >>> Of course it is.  By definition anything unlawful is a   
   >>> crime.  Otherwise it would be lawful.   
   >>>   
   >> By definition anything defined by statute to be a crime is a crime.   
   >> There are a myriad things that are unlawful that are not crimes, for   
   >> example torts and breaches of contract, also statutes that only carry   
   >> civil penalties if they are violated.   
   >>   
   >> Anyone who enters the country illegally has committed a crime,   
   >> 8 U.S.C. § 1325.  Anyone who assists them to stay in the USA   
   >> has also committed a crime, 8 U.S.C. § 1324.   
   >>   
   >> A non-citizen who enters the USA with a valid visa, who stays after   
   >> the visa expires, is in the country unlawfully.  Overstaying an   
   >> expired visa is a civil violation, it is not a crime.  However,   
   >> remaining in the face of a deportation order is a crime.   
   > Is the subject of a deportation order expected to self-deport,   
   > Francis?   
      
   Weasel question noted.   
      
   Trespassing on private property will get your ass shot.  Write that down.   
      
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