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   Message 1,135 of 1,366   
   Percival P. Cassidy to Robert   
   Re: Trinity, Catholics. the early church   
   03 Jun 19 11:00:57   
   
   XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife, alt.religion.christian.east-orthodox   
   From: Nobody@NotMyISP.net   
      
   On 6/1/19 9:46 PM, Robert wrote:   
   > Yeah I know, knock your socks off Duke, Pat, Servant, Nick, any particular   
   > reason that Jesus never mentioned it?   
   >   
   > Historian and science fiction writer H.G. Wells, in his noted workThe Outline   
   > of History, points out, “There is no evidence that the apostles of Jesus   
   > ever heard of the trinity—at any rate from him” (1920, Vol. 2, p. 499).   
   >   
   > Killer, eh?   
   >   
   > Martin Luther, the RC German priest who initiated the Protestant Reformation,   
   > conceded, “It is indeed true that the name ‘Trinity’ is nowhere to be   
   > found in the Holy Scriptures, but has been conceived and invented by man”   
   > (reproduced in The Sermons of Martin Luther, John Lenker, editor, Vol. 3,   
   > 1988, p. 406)   
   >   
   > The HarperCollins Encyclopedia of Catholicism states: “Today, how-   
   >   
   > ever, scholars generally agree that there is no doctrine of the Trinity as   
   > such in either the OT[Old Testament] or the NT [New Testament] . . . It would   
   > go far beyond the intention and thought-forms of the OT to suppose that a   
   > late-fourth-century or thirteenth-century Christian doctrine can be found   
   > there . . . Likewise, the NT does not contain an explicit doctrine of the   
   > Trinity”(Richard McBrien, general editor, 1995, “God,” pp. 564-565).   
   >   
   > The New Encyclopaedia Britannica, in its article on the Trinity, explains:   
   > “Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New   
   > Testament . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several cen- turies and   
   > through many controversies . . . It was not until the 4th century that the   
   > distinctness of the three and their unity were brought together in a single   
   > orthodox doctrine of one essence and three persons” (1985 edition,   
   > Micropaedia, Vol. 11, p. 928).   
   >   
   > The New International Dictionary of New Testament Theologypoints out that   
   > “primitive Christianity did not have an explicit doctrine of the Trinity   
   > such as was subsequently elaborated in the creeds of the early church”   
   > (Colin Brown, editor, Vol. 2, 1976, “God,” p. 84).   
   >   
   > *************************************************   
   > All Greek to me?   
   >   
   > Many historians and religious scholars note that the ideas of the Greek   
   > philosopher Plato influenced the development and acceptance of the doctrine   
   > of the Trinity.   
   >   
   > **************************************************   
   >   
   > Have you any proof to the contrary?   
   > —   
   > Hebrews 11:6   
      
      
   You do know what the word "explicit" means, I assume?   
      
   Perce   
      
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