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|    Percival P. Cassidy to Robert    |
|    Re: Trinity, Catholics. the early church    |
|    03 Jun 19 11:00:57    |
      XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife, alt.religion.christian.east-orthodox       From: Nobody@NotMyISP.net              On 6/1/19 9:46 PM, Robert wrote:       > Yeah I know, knock your socks off Duke, Pat, Servant, Nick, any particular       > reason that Jesus never mentioned it?       >       > Historian and science fiction writer H.G. Wells, in his noted workThe Outline       > of History, points out, “There is no evidence that the apostles of Jesus       > ever heard of the trinity—at any rate from him” (1920, Vol. 2, p. 499).       >       > Killer, eh?       >       > Martin Luther, the RC German priest who initiated the Protestant Reformation,       > conceded, “It is indeed true that the name ‘Trinity’ is nowhere to be       > found in the Holy Scriptures, but has been conceived and invented by man”       > (reproduced in The Sermons of Martin Luther, John Lenker, editor, Vol. 3,       > 1988, p. 406)       >       > The HarperCollins Encyclopedia of Catholicism states: “Today, how-       >       > ever, scholars generally agree that there is no doctrine of the Trinity as       > such in either the OT[Old Testament] or the NT [New Testament] . . . It would       > go far beyond the intention and thought-forms of the OT to suppose that a       > late-fourth-century or thirteenth-century Christian doctrine can be found       > there . . . Likewise, the NT does not contain an explicit doctrine of the       > Trinity”(Richard McBrien, general editor, 1995, “God,” pp. 564-565).       >       > The New Encyclopaedia Britannica, in its article on the Trinity, explains:       > “Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New       > Testament . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several cen- turies and       > through many controversies . . . It was not until the 4th century that the       > distinctness of the three and their unity were brought together in a single       > orthodox doctrine of one essence and three persons” (1985 edition,       > Micropaedia, Vol. 11, p. 928).       >       > The New International Dictionary of New Testament Theologypoints out that       > “primitive Christianity did not have an explicit doctrine of the Trinity       > such as was subsequently elaborated in the creeds of the early church”       > (Colin Brown, editor, Vol. 2, 1976, “God,” p. 84).       >       > *************************************************       > All Greek to me?       >       > Many historians and religious scholars note that the ideas of the Greek       > philosopher Plato influenced the development and acceptance of the doctrine       > of the Trinity.       >       > **************************************************       >       > Have you any proof to the contrary?       > —       > Hebrews 11:6                     You do know what the word "explicit" means, I assume?              Perce              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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