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   From: hayesstw@telkomsa.net   
      
   On Sun, 02 Jun 2019 10:48:02 -0700, Robert  wrote:   
      
   >On Jun 2, 2019, Steve Hayes wrote   
   >(in article):   
   >   
   >> On Fri, 31 May 2019 23:31:36 -0700, Robert  wrote:   
   >>   
   >> > On May 31, 2019, Steve Hayes wrote   
   >> > (in article):   
   >> >   
   >> > > On Thu, 30 May 2019 11:58:15 -0700, Robert  wrote:   
   >> > >   
   >> > > > I just listened to this yesterday, it is totally awesome. He teaches   
   from   
   >> > > > the   
   >> > > > Bible on how God dealt with sin and the human race from Adam until   
   now.   
   >> > > >   
   >> > > > This should open the eyes of understanding for many whose religion   
   puts   
   >> > > > them   
   >> > > > under the law of God. It tied up a few loose ends for me, and it   
   seemed to   
   >> > > > fly by in 15 minutes, although the entire teaching is 50 minutes long.   
   >> > >   
   >> > > I don't do podcasts and videos as they waste too much bandwidth, but   
   >> > > that's not a problem because I do have a Bible so I can see how sin is   
   >> > > defined biblically without listening to man-made definitions from some   
   >> > > electronic voice.   
   >> > >   
   >> > > So if you want to know how sin is defined biblically, see:   
   >> > >   
   >> > > Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;   
   >> > > Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in   
   >> > > Christ Jesus:   
   >> > >   
   >> > > Sin is missing the mark, like an arrow that falls short of the target.   
   >> > >   
   >> > > And what is the target?   
   >> > >   
   >> > > The target is the glory of God.   
   >> > >   
   >> > > And what is the remedy for sin?   
   >> > >   
   >> > > God picks us up from where we have fallen short, and puts us back on   
   >> > > track.   
   >> > >   
   >> > > And the track is Orthodoxy, the straight (orthos) path to glory   
   >> > > (doxa).   
   >> > >   
   >> > > Glory to God!   
   >> >   
   >> > Were you aware then that we are not under the Mosaic Law? That sin is not   
   >> > imputed to the account of a believer in Jesus Christ. That in the   
   beginning   
   >> > sin was not imputed to man from Adam up until the time of Moses?   
   >>   
   >> Oh dear, another legalist!   
   >>   
   >> Tiptoe through the TULIPs.   
   >   
   >Please clarify, I cannot see how this is being a legalist. As an example,   
   >would you call someone who believes and holds true the statement of Jesus   
   >that, “you must be born again” and that this has to be satisfied in order   
   >to be saved, that it is being a legalist?   
      
   You brought in the Mosaic law, which, as far as I am aware, says   
   nothing about being born again.   
      
   But perhaps you are privy to some knowlege about that which is not   
   known to the rest of us.   
      
      
      
      
      
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