XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife, alt.messianic, alt.religion.
hristian.east-orthodox
From: none@none.net
On 6/4/2019 6:14 AM, duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote:
> On Mon, 03 Jun 2019 12:01:01 -0700, Robert wrote:
>
>> On Jun 3, 2019, Surrender the Name wrote
>> (in article ):
>>
>>> On 6/3/2019 7:40 AM, duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 02 Jun 2019 10:48:02 -0700, Robert wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 2, 2019, Steve Hayes wrote
>>>>> (in article):
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 31 May 2019 23:31:36 -0700, Robert wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On May 31, 2019, Steve Hayes wrote
>>>>>>> (in article):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 30 May 2019 11:58:15 -0700, Robert wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I just listened to this yesterday, it is totally awesome. He teaches
>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> Bible on how God dealt with sin and the human race from Adam until
now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This should open the eyes of understanding for many whose religion
puts
>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>> under the law of God. It tied up a few loose ends for me, and it
>>>>>>>>> seemed to
>>>>>>>>> fly by in 15 minutes, although the entire teaching is 50 minutes
long.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't do podcasts and videos as they waste too much bandwidth, but
>>>>>>>> that's not a problem because I do have a Bible so I can see how sin is
>>>>>>>> defined biblically without listening to man-made definitions from some
>>>>>>>> electronic voice.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So if you want to know how sin is defined biblically, see:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
>>>>>>>> Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in
>>>>>>>> Christ Jesus:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sin is missing the mark, like an arrow that falls short of the target.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And what is the target?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The target is the glory of God.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And what is the remedy for sin?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> God picks us up from where we have fallen short, and puts us back on
>>>>>>>> track.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And the track is Orthodoxy, the straight (orthos) path to glory
>>>>>>>> (doxa).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Glory to God!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Were you aware then that we are not under the Mosaic Law? That sin is
not
>>>>>>> imputed to the account of a believer in Jesus Christ. That in the
>>>>>>> beginning
>>>>>>> sin was not imputed to man from Adam up until the time of Moses?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh dear, another legalist!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tiptoe through the TULIPs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please clarify, I cannot see how this is being a legalist. '
>>>>
>>>> Everybody knew you wouldn't understand.
>>>>
>>>>> As an example,
>>>>> would you call someone who believes and holds true the statement of Jesus
>>>>> that, “you must be born again” and that this has to be satisfied in
>>>>> order
>>>>> to be saved, that it is being a legalist?
>>>>
>>>> Yet you've make it clear that you reject water baptism. You see, liar boy,
>>>> it's all your way or the highway regarding the Word of God.
>>>>
>>>>> Hebrews 11:6
>>>>
>>>> the dukester
>>>
>>> He has you kill filed. Your insults fall upon the ears of
>>> the deaf, which is a good thing. You will no longer incite
>>> his anger. There are others he can learn the truth from
>>> that do not abuse those they teach.
>>
>> Duke also knowingly lies about me and my position with Christ.
>
> You have no position with Jessu Christ.
He doesn't see your posts. Truly, you are not Jesus and not
in the position to know absolutely. Consider that Paul teaches
that Gentiles are not under the laws as they stand but are to
abstain from fornication and meat sacrificed to idols.
Now you cannot have it both ways duke; either Paul was wrong
or YOU are wrong.
If Pauls gospel is truly of God then you are following the pathway
lain out for the Jews by Jesus.
If on the other hand Pauls gospel is not of God then you are correct.
It *CANNOT* be both...
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