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   hristian.east-orthodox   
   From: none@none.net   
      
   On 6/4/2019 12:47 PM, Surrender the Name wrote:   
   > On 6/4/2019 6:03 AM, duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote:   
   >> On Mon, 3 Jun 2019 09:35:35 -0500, Surrender the Name    
   >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 6/3/2019 7:40 AM, duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote:   
   >>>> On Sun, 02 Jun 2019 10:48:02 -0700, Robert  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On Jun 2, 2019, Steve Hayes wrote   
   >>>>> (in article):   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On Fri, 31 May 2019 23:31:36 -0700, Robert  wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On May 31, 2019, Steve Hayes wrote   
   >>>>>>> (in article):   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On Thu, 30 May 2019 11:58:15 -0700, Robert  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> I just listened to this yesterday, it is totally awesome. He   
   >>>>>>>>> teaches from   
   >>>>>>>>> the   
   >>>>>>>>> Bible on how God dealt with sin and the human race from Adam   
   >>>>>>>>> until now.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> This should open the eyes of understanding for many whose   
   >>>>>>>>> religion puts   
   >>>>>>>>> them   
   >>>>>>>>> under the law of God. It tied up a few loose ends for me, and   
   >>>>>>>>> it seemed to   
   >>>>>>>>> fly by in 15 minutes, although the entire teaching is 50   
   >>>>>>>>> minutes long.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> I don't do podcasts and videos as they waste too much bandwidth,   
   >>>>>>>> but   
   >>>>>>>> that's not a problem because I do have a Bible so I can see how   
   >>>>>>>> sin is   
   >>>>>>>> defined biblically without listening to man-made definitions   
   >>>>>>>> from some   
   >>>>>>>> electronic voice.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> So if you want to know how sin is defined biblically, see:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of   
   >>>>>>>> God;   
   >>>>>>>> Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that   
   >>>>>>>> is in   
   >>>>>>>> Christ Jesus:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Sin is missing the mark, like an arrow that falls short of the   
   >>>>>>>> target.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> And what is the target?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> The target is the glory of God.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> And what is the remedy for sin?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> God picks us up from where we have fallen short, and puts us   
   >>>>>>>> back on   
   >>>>>>>> track.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> And the track is Orthodoxy, the straight (orthos) path to glory   
   >>>>>>>> (doxa).   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Glory to God!   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Were you aware then that we are not under the Mosaic Law? That   
   >>>>>>> sin is not   
   >>>>>>> imputed to the account of a believer in Jesus Christ. That in the   
   >>>>>>> beginning   
   >>>>>>> sin was not imputed to man from Adam up until the time of Moses?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Oh dear, another legalist!   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Tiptoe through the TULIPs.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Please clarify, I cannot see how this is being a legalist. '   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Everybody knew you wouldn't understand.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> As an example,   
   >>>>> would you call someone who believes and holds true the statement of   
   >>>>> Jesus   
   >>>>> that, “you must be born again” and that this has to be satisfied in   
   >>>>> order   
   >>>>> to be saved, that it is being a legalist?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Yet you've make it clear that you reject water baptism.   You see,   
   >>>> liar boy,   
   >>>> it's all your way or the highway regarding the Word of God.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> Hebrews 11:6   
   >>>>   
   >>>> the dukester   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>>    He has you kill filed. Your insults fall upon the ears of   
   >>>    the deaf, which is a good thing.   
   >>   
   >> I know that, but the message falls on the ears of all the foolish   
   >> people that   
   >> might listen to him and the fabrications of his views of scripture   
   >> that he   
   >> throws out..   
   >   
   >    Roberts religious philosophy as I understand it is based upon   
   >    what Paul said in the scriptures, ergo considering that Paul teaches   
   >     that Gentiles are not under the laws as they stand but are to   
   >     abstain from fornication and meat sacrificed to idols.   
      
         Correction: Act_15:29  That you abstain from things sacrificed to   
   idols and from blood and from things strangled and from fornication:   
   from which things keeping yourselves, you shall do well. Fare ye well.   
      
      
      
   >   
   >     Now you cannot have it both ways duke; either Paul was wrong   
   >     or YOU are wrong.   
   >   
   >     If Paul's gospel is truly of God then you are following the pathway   
   >     lain out for the Jews by Jesus.   
   >   
   >     If on the other hand Paul's gospel is not of God then you are correct.   
   >   
   >     It *CANNOT* be both...   
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