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   hristian.east-orthodox   
   From: none@none.net   
      
   On 6/4/2019 12:42 PM, Surrender the Name wrote:   
   > On 6/4/2019 6:14 AM, duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote:   
   >> On Mon, 03 Jun 2019 12:01:01 -0700, Robert  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On Jun 3, 2019, Surrender the Name wrote   
   >>> (in article ):   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 6/3/2019 7:40 AM, duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote:   
   >>>>> On Sun, 02 Jun 2019 10:48:02 -0700, Robert  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On Jun 2, 2019, Steve Hayes wrote   
   >>>>>> (in article):   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On Fri, 31 May 2019 23:31:36 -0700, Robert  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On May 31, 2019, Steve Hayes wrote   
   >>>>>>>> (in article):   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 30 May 2019 11:58:15 -0700, Robert  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> I just listened to this yesterday, it is totally awesome. He   
   >>>>>>>>>> teaches   
   >>>>>>>>>> from   
   >>>>>>>>>> the   
   >>>>>>>>>> Bible on how God dealt with sin and the human race from Adam   
   >>>>>>>>>> until now.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> This should open the eyes of understanding for many whose   
   >>>>>>>>>> religion puts   
   >>>>>>>>>> them   
   >>>>>>>>>> under the law of God. It tied up a few loose ends for me, and it   
   >>>>>>>>>> seemed to   
   >>>>>>>>>> fly by in 15 minutes, although the entire teaching is 50   
   >>>>>>>>>> minutes long.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> I don't do podcasts and videos as they waste too much   
   >>>>>>>>> bandwidth, but   
   >>>>>>>>> that's not a problem because I do have a Bible so I can see how   
   >>>>>>>>> sin is   
   >>>>>>>>> defined biblically without listening to man-made definitions   
   >>>>>>>>> from some   
   >>>>>>>>> electronic voice.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> So if you want to know how sin is defined biblically, see:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of   
   >>>>>>>>> God;   
   >>>>>>>>> Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that   
   >>>>>>>>> is in   
   >>>>>>>>> Christ Jesus:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Sin is missing the mark, like an arrow that falls short of the   
   >>>>>>>>> target.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> And what is the target?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> The target is the glory of God.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> And what is the remedy for sin?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> God picks us up from where we have fallen short, and puts us   
   >>>>>>>>> back on   
   >>>>>>>>> track.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> And the track is Orthodoxy, the straight (orthos) path to glory   
   >>>>>>>>> (doxa).   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Glory to God!   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Were you aware then that we are not under the Mosaic Law? That   
   >>>>>>>> sin is not   
   >>>>>>>> imputed to the account of a believer in Jesus Christ. That in the   
   >>>>>>>> beginning   
   >>>>>>>> sin was not imputed to man from Adam up until the time of Moses?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Oh dear, another legalist!   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Tiptoe through the TULIPs.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Please clarify, I cannot see how this is being a legalist. '   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Everybody knew you wouldn't understand.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> As an example,   
   >>>>>> would you call someone who believes and holds true the statement   
   >>>>>> of Jesus   
   >>>>>> that, “you must be born again” and that this has to be satisfied in   
   >>>>>> order   
   >>>>>> to be saved, that it is being a legalist?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Yet you've make it clear that you reject water baptism. You see,   
   >>>>> liar boy,   
   >>>>> it's all your way or the highway regarding the Word of God.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> Hebrews 11:6   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> the dukester   
   >>>>   
   >>>> He has you kill filed. Your insults fall upon the ears of   
   >>>> the deaf, which is a good thing. You will no longer incite   
   >>>> his anger. There are others he can learn the truth from   
   >>>> that do not abuse those they teach.   
   >>>   
   >>> Duke also knowingly lies about me and my position with Christ.   
   >>   
   >> You have no position with Jessu Christ.   
   >   
   >     He doesn't see your posts. Truly, you are not Jesus and not   
   >     in the position to know absolutely. Consider that Paul teaches   
   >     that Gentiles are not under the laws as they stand but are to   
   >     abstain from fornication and meat sacrificed to idols.   
      
          Correction: Act_15:29  That you abstain from things sacrificed to   
   idols and from blood and from things strangled and from fornication:   
   from which things keeping yourselves, you shall do well. Fare ye well.   
      
      
   >   
   >     Now you cannot have it both ways duke; either Paul was wrong   
   >     or YOU are wrong.   
   >   
   >     If Pauls gospel is truly of God then you are following the pathway   
   >     lain out for the Jews by Jesus.   
   >   
   >     If on the other hand Pauls gospel is not of God then you are correct.   
   >   
   >     It *CANNOT* be both...   
   >   
   >   
      
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