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From: hayesstw@telkomsa.net
On Mon, 03 Jun 2019 21:37:54 -0700, Robert wrote:
>On Jun 3, 2019, Steve Hayes wrote
>(in article):
>
>> On Sun, 02 Jun 2019 10:48:02 -0700, Robert wrote:
>>
>> > On Jun 2, 2019, Steve Hayes wrote
>> > (in article):
>> >
>> > > On Fri, 31 May 2019 23:31:36 -0700, Robert wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > On May 31, 2019, Steve Hayes wrote
>> > > > (in article):
>> > > >
>> > > > > On Thu, 30 May 2019 11:58:15 -0700, Robert wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > I just listened to this yesterday, it is totally awesome. He
teaches
>> > > > > > from
>> > > > > > the
>> > > > > > Bible on how God dealt with sin and the human race from Adam
until now.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > This should open the eyes of understanding for many whose
religion puts
>> > > > > > them
>> > > > > > under the law of God. It tied up a few loose ends for me, and it
seemed
>> > > > > > to
>> > > > > > fly by in 15 minutes, although the entire teaching is 50 minutes
long.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I don't do podcasts and videos as they waste too much bandwidth, but
>> > > > > that's not a problem because I do have a Bible so I can see how sin
is
>> > > > > defined biblically without listening to man-made definitions from
some
>> > > > > electronic voice.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > So if you want to know how sin is defined biblically, see:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
>> > > > > Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is
in
>> > > > > Christ Jesus:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Sin is missing the mark, like an arrow that falls short of the
target.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > And what is the target?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > The target is the glory of God.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > And what is the remedy for sin?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > God picks us up from where we have fallen short, and puts us back on
>> > > > > track.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > And the track is Orthodoxy, the straight (orthos) path to glory
>> > > > > (doxa).
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Glory to God!
>> > > >
>> > > > Were you aware then that we are not under the Mosaic Law? That sin is
not
>> > > > imputed to the account of a believer in Jesus Christ. That in the
>> > > > beginning
>> > > > sin was not imputed to man from Adam up until the time of Moses?
>> > >
>> > > Oh dear, another legalist!
>> > >
>> > > Tiptoe through the TULIPs.
>> >
>> > Please clarify, I cannot see how this is being a legalist. As an example,
>> > would you call someone who believes and holds true the statement of Jesus
>> > that, “you must be born again” and that this has to be satisfied in
>> > order
>> > to be saved, that it is being a legalist?
>>
>> You brought in the Mosaic law, which, as far as I am aware, says
>> nothing about being born again.
>
>Is there something wrong with bringing up some of the subjects that were
>dealt with and how they tied into the workings of God with men? Was it wrong
>to mention how that many churches still tie in the Mosaic Law as part of
>their must do precepts? And that the teaching of this fellow showed how that
>was out of order for any Church to subscribe to?
If you want to have a coherent discussion, yes, there is something
wrong with it. If you want to discuss the Mosaic Law, start a new
thread on it, with a new subject line, and those who are interested in
it can pursue it.
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