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From: none@none.net
On 6/4/2019 4:41 PM, Robert wrote:
> On Jun 4, 2019, Surrender the Name wrote
> (in article ):
>
>> On 6/3/2019 2:01 PM, Robert wrote:
>>> On Jun 3, 2019, Surrender the Name wrote
>>> (in article ):
>>>
>>>> On 6/3/2019 7:40 AM, duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 02 Jun 2019 10:48:02 -0700, Robert wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 2, 2019, Steve Hayes wrote
>>>>>> (in article):
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 31 May 2019 23:31:36 -0700, Robert wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On May 31, 2019, Steve Hayes wrote
>>>>>>>> (in article):
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 30 May 2019 11:58:15 -0700, Robert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I just listened to this yesterday, it is totally awesome. He teaches
>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> Bible on how God dealt with sin and the human race from Adam until
>>>>>>>>>> now.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This should open the eyes of understanding for many whose religion
>>>>>>>>>> puts
>>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>> under the law of God. It tied up a few loose ends for me, and it
>>>>>>>>>> seemed to
>>>>>>>>>> fly by in 15 minutes, although the entire teaching is 50 minutes
>>>>>>>>>> long.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't do podcasts and videos as they waste too much bandwidth, but
>>>>>>>>> that's not a problem because I do have a Bible so I can see how sin
is
>>>>>>>>> defined biblically without listening to man-made definitions from
some
>>>>>>>>> electronic voice.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So if you want to know how sin is defined biblically, see:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
>>>>>>>>> Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in
>>>>>>>>> Christ Jesus:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sin is missing the mark, like an arrow that falls short of the
target.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And what is the target?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The target is the glory of God.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And what is the remedy for sin?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> God picks us up from where we have fallen short, and puts us back on
>>>>>>>>> track.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And the track is Orthodoxy, the straight (orthos) path to glory
>>>>>>>>> (doxa).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Glory to God!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Were you aware then that we are not under the Mosaic Law? That sin is
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> imputed to the account of a believer in Jesus Christ. That in the
>>>>>>>> beginning
>>>>>>>> sin was not imputed to man from Adam up until the time of Moses?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh dear, another legalist!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tiptoe through the TULIPs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please clarify, I cannot see how this is being a legalist. '
>>>>>
>>>>> Everybody knew you wouldn't understand.
>>>>>
>>>>>> As an example,
>>>>>> would you call someone who believes and holds true the statement of
Jesus
>>>>>> that, “you must be born again” and that this has to be satisfied in
>>>>>> order
>>>>>> to be saved, that it is being a legalist?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yet you've make it clear that you reject water baptism. You see, liar
boy,
>>>>> it's all your way or the highway regarding the Word of God.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hebrews 11:6
>>>>>
>>>>> the dukester
>>>>
>>>> He has you kill filed. Your insults fall upon the ears of
>>>> the deaf, which is a good thing. You will no longer incite
>>>> his anger. There are others he can learn the truth from
>>>> that do not abuse those they teach.
>>>
>>> Duke also knowingly lies about me and my position with Christ.
>>
>> He really has no way of knowing other than by what you say
>> in your posts, and many times that is misunderstanding or
>> guesswork.
>
> Oh he knows alright. I posted things contrary to what he said many times. He
> will then stop saying it for a week or so, then go right back to his lies.
> This is a cycle that has been repeated more times than I can count, Pat does
> the same things. I let it go for long periods before I show him the old post
> refuting what he said, and also his posts saying he won’t do it again.
>
> But I have learned to let it go, and let God deal with him in the end. He and
> a couple other people here have said such things repeatedly to such an extent
> that many believe them like they do the lies propagandists consistently
> repeat. I also have come to realize that most people who post are shallow
> thinkers and only skim read, and don’t really care one way or the other.
>
> So instead of stopping my race to deal with those in the stands, I just keep
> focused on who I am in Christ Jesus, and avoid getting caught up for the most
> part.
>
> Bottom line is that he knowingly lies.
>
>>
>>
>>> Which
>>> according to his doctrine makes it so serious that a priest cannot forgive
>>> him for it. And based on what I see in his post that you replied to I will
>>> be
>>> extending the Plonk for at the least another 30 days. It is rather nice not
>>> seeing his hourly attacks.
>>>
>>> —
>>> Hebrews 11:6
>>
>> What most do not comprehend is that the scriptures offer
>> people more than 1 pathway to Jesus but only one path to
>> God, thru Jesus.
>
> Well, that certainly is an interesting thought, but at the moment I don’t
> see how. I see how circumstances in life might show us a need, but....
>
> Then there is this verse to consider,...
> Mat 11:27 (verseid:40.11.27)All things are delivered unto me of my Father:
> and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the
> Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.
Jesus revealed the father in the scriptures
so that all that read will know. The same spirit.
>
> —
> Hebrews 11:6
>
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