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From: none@none.net
On 6/5/2019 7:24 PM, Robert wrote:
> On Jun 5, 2019, Surrender the Name wrote
> (in article ):
>
>> On 6/4/2019 4:41 PM, Robert wrote:
>>> On Jun 4, 2019, Surrender the Name wrote
>>> (in article ):
>>>
>>>> On 6/3/2019 2:01 PM, Robert wrote:
>>>>> On Jun 3, 2019, Surrender the Name wrote
>>>>> (in article ):
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/3/2019 7:40 AM, duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, 02 Jun 2019 10:48:02 -0700, Robert wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jun 2, 2019, Steve Hayes wrote
>>>>>>>> (in article):
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 31 May 2019 23:31:36 -0700, Robert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On May 31, 2019, Steve Hayes wrote
>>>>>>>>>> (in article):
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 30 May 2019 11:58:15 -0700, Robert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I just listened to this yesterday, it is totally awesome. He
>>>>>>>>>>>> teaches
>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bible on how God dealt with sin and the human race from Adam until
>>>>>>>>>>>> now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This should open the eyes of understanding for many whose religion
>>>>>>>>>>>> puts
>>>>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>>>> under the law of God. It tied up a few loose ends for me, and it
>>>>>>>>>>>> seemed to
>>>>>>>>>>>> fly by in 15 minutes, although the entire teaching is 50 minutes
>>>>>>>>>>>> long.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't do podcasts and videos as they waste too much bandwidth,
but
>>>>>>>>>>> that's not a problem because I do have a Bible so I can see how sin
>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> defined biblically without listening to man-made definitions from
>>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>> electronic voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So if you want to know how sin is defined biblically, see:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of
God;
>>>>>>>>>>> Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is
>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> Christ Jesus:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sin is missing the mark, like an arrow that falls short of the
>>>>>>>>>>> target.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And what is the target?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The target is the glory of God.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And what is the remedy for sin?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> God picks us up from where we have fallen short, and puts us back
on
>>>>>>>>>>> track.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And the track is Orthodoxy, the straight (orthos) path to glory
>>>>>>>>>>> (doxa).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Glory to God!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Were you aware then that we are not under the Mosaic Law? That sin
is
>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>> imputed to the account of a believer in Jesus Christ. That in the
>>>>>>>>>> beginning
>>>>>>>>>> sin was not imputed to man from Adam up until the time of Moses?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Oh dear, another legalist!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tiptoe through the TULIPs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please clarify, I cannot see how this is being a legalist. '
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Everybody knew you wouldn't understand.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As an example,
>>>>>>>> would you call someone who believes and holds true the statement of
>>>>>>>> Jesus
>>>>>>>> that, “you must be born again” and that this has to be satisfied
in
>>>>>>>> order
>>>>>>>> to be saved, that it is being a legalist?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yet you've make it clear that you reject water baptism. You see, liar
>>>>>>> boy,
>>>>>>> it's all your way or the highway regarding the Word of God.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hebrews 11:6
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the dukester
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He has you kill filed. Your insults fall upon the ears of
>>>>>> the deaf, which is a good thing. You will no longer incite
>>>>>> his anger. There are others he can learn the truth from
>>>>>> that do not abuse those they teach.
>>>>>
>>>>> Duke also knowingly lies about me and my position with Christ.
>>>>
>>>> He really has no way of knowing other than by what you say
>>>> in your posts, and many times that is misunderstanding or
>>>> guesswork.
>>>
>>> Oh he knows alright. I posted things contrary to what he said many times.
He
>>> will then stop saying it for a week or so, then go right back to his lies.
>>> This is a cycle that has been repeated more times than I can count, Pat
does
>>> the same things. I let it go for long periods before I show him the old
post
>>> refuting what he said, and also his posts saying he won’t do it again.
>>>
>>> But I have learned to let it go, and let God deal with him in the end. He
>>> and
>>> a couple other people here have said such things repeatedly to such an
>>> extent
>>> that many believe them like they do the lies propagandists consistently
>>> repeat. I also have come to realize that most people who post are shallow
>>> thinkers and only skim read, and don’t really care one way or the other.
>>>
>>> So instead of stopping my race to deal with those in the stands, I just
keep
>>> focused on who I am in Christ Jesus, and avoid getting caught up for the
>>> most
>>> part.
>>>
>>> Bottom line is that he knowingly lies.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Which
>>>>> according to his doctrine makes it so serious that a priest cannot
forgive
>>>>> him for it. And based on what I see in his post that you replied to I
will
>>>>> be
>>>>> extending the Plonk for at the least another 30 days. It is rather nice
>>>>> not
>>>>> seeing his hourly attacks.
>>>>>
>>>>> —
>>>>> Hebrews 11:6
>>>>
>>>> What most do not comprehend is that the scriptures offer
>>>> people more than 1 pathway to Jesus but only one path to
>>>> God, thru Jesus.
>>>
>>> Well, that certainly is an interesting thought, but at the moment I don’t
>>> see how. I see how circumstances in life might show us a need, but....
>>>
>>> Then there is this verse to consider,...
>>> Mat 11:27 (verseid:40.11.27)All things are delivered unto me of my Father:
>>> and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the
>>> Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.
>>
>> Jesus revealed the father in the scriptures
>> so that all that read will know. The same spirit.
>
> Yes, they revealed each other, The Word became Flesh.
> And the wonderful thing is that there is a distinct possibility of the
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