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   hristian.east-orthodox   
   From: none@none.net   
      
   On 6/6/2019 6:32 AM, duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote:   
   > On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 12:32:41 -0500, Surrender the Name  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 6/3/2019 2:01 PM, Robert wrote:   
   >>> On Jun 3, 2019, Surrender the Name wrote   
   >>> (in article ):   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 6/3/2019 7:40 AM, duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote:   
   >>>>> On Sun, 02 Jun 2019 10:48:02 -0700, Robert  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On Jun 2, 2019, Steve Hayes wrote   
   >>>>>> (in article):   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On Fri, 31 May 2019 23:31:36 -0700, Robert  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On May 31, 2019, Steve Hayes wrote   
   >>>>>>>> (in article):   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 30 May 2019 11:58:15 -0700, Robert  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> I just listened to this yesterday, it is totally awesome. He teaches   
   >>>>>>>>>> from   
   >>>>>>>>>> the   
   >>>>>>>>>> Bible on how God dealt with sin and the human race from Adam until   
   now.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> This should open the eyes of understanding for many whose religion   
   puts   
   >>>>>>>>>> them   
   >>>>>>>>>> under the law of God. It tied up a few loose ends for me, and it   
   >>>>>>>>>> seemed to   
   >>>>>>>>>> fly by in 15 minutes, although the entire teaching is 50 minutes   
   long.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> I don't do podcasts and videos as they waste too much bandwidth, but   
   >>>>>>>>> that's not a problem because I do have a Bible so I can see how sin   
   is   
   >>>>>>>>> defined biblically without listening to man-made definitions from   
   some   
   >>>>>>>>> electronic voice.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> So if you want to know how sin is defined biblically, see:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;   
   >>>>>>>>> Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in   
   >>>>>>>>> Christ Jesus:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Sin is missing the mark, like an arrow that falls short of the   
   target.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> And what is the target?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> The target is the glory of God.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> And what is the remedy for sin?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> God picks us up from where we have fallen short, and puts us back on   
   >>>>>>>>> track.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> And the track is Orthodoxy, the straight (orthos) path to glory   
   >>>>>>>>> (doxa).   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Glory to God!   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Were you aware then that we are not under the Mosaic Law? That sin is   
   not   
   >>>>>>>> imputed to the account of a believer in Jesus Christ. That in the   
   >>>>>>>> beginning   
   >>>>>>>> sin was not imputed to man from Adam up until the time of Moses?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Oh dear, another legalist!   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Tiptoe through the TULIPs.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Please clarify, I cannot see how this is being a legalist. '   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Everybody knew you wouldn't understand.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> As an example,   
   >>>>>> would you call someone who believes and holds true the statement of   
   Jesus   
   >>>>>> that, “you must be born again” and that this has to be satisfied in   
   >>>>>> order   
   >>>>>> to be saved, that it is being a legalist?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Yet you've make it clear that you reject water baptism. You see, liar   
   boy,   
   >>>>> it's all your way or the highway regarding the Word of God.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> Hebrews 11:6   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> the dukester   
   >>>>   
   >>>> He has you kill filed. Your insults fall upon the ears of   
   >>>> the deaf, which is a good thing. You will no longer incite   
   >>>> his anger. There are others he can learn the truth from   
   >>>> that do not abuse those they teach.   
   >>>   
   >>> Duke also knowingly lies about me and my position with Christ.   
   >>   
   >>    He really has no way of knowing other than by what you say   
   >>    in your posts, and many times that is misunderstanding or   
   >>    guesswork.   
   >   
   >   
   > Lying would be dishonest.  Robert is almost a no-show in following Jesus. He   
   > chooses to interpret his "Christianity" in his own selected terms.  It   
   doesn't   
   > work.  And he hides from discussion about it, as evidenced by his kill   
   filing me   
   > for the 5th time.   
      
      He discusses those things with me! Maybe it's your approach..or maybe   
      he is simply tired of your abusing him. When you abuse someone you are   
      not discussing, you are berating them. Robert is sticking by what he   
   knows to be truth where Gentiles are concerned.   
      
      
      
   >   
   >>> Which   
   >>> according to his doctrine makes it so serious that a priest cannot forgive   
   >>> him for it. And based on what I see in his post that you replied to I will   
   be   
   >>> extending the Plonk for at the least another 30 days. It is rather nice not   
   >>> seeing his hourly attacks.   
   >>>   
   >>> —   
   >>> Hebrews 11:6   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >>    What most do not comprehend is that the scriptures offer   
   >>    people more than 1 pathway to Jesus but only one path to   
   >>    God, thru Jesus.   
   >   
   > the dukester   
   >   
      
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