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   hristian.east-orthodox   
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   On 6/6/2019 6:25 AM, duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote:   
   > On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 12:42:27 -0500, Surrender the Name  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 6/4/2019 6:14 AM, duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote:   
   >>> On Mon, 03 Jun 2019 12:01:01 -0700, Robert  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On Jun 3, 2019, Surrender the Name wrote   
   >>>> (in article ):   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On 6/3/2019 7:40 AM, duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote:   
   >>>>>> On Sun, 02 Jun 2019 10:48:02 -0700, Robert  wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On Jun 2, 2019, Steve Hayes wrote   
   >>>>>>> (in article):   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On Fri, 31 May 2019 23:31:36 -0700, Robert  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> On May 31, 2019, Steve Hayes wrote   
   >>>>>>>>> (in article):   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 30 May 2019 11:58:15 -0700, Robert  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> I just listened to this yesterday, it is totally awesome. He   
   teaches   
   >>>>>>>>>>> from   
   >>>>>>>>>>> the   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Bible on how God dealt with sin and the human race from Adam until   
   now.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> This should open the eyes of understanding for many whose religion   
   puts   
   >>>>>>>>>>> them   
   >>>>>>>>>>> under the law of God. It tied up a few loose ends for me, and it   
   >>>>>>>>>>> seemed to   
   >>>>>>>>>>> fly by in 15 minutes, although the entire teaching is 50 minutes   
   long.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> I don't do podcasts and videos as they waste too much bandwidth, but   
   >>>>>>>>>> that's not a problem because I do have a Bible so I can see how sin   
   is   
   >>>>>>>>>> defined biblically without listening to man-made definitions from   
   some   
   >>>>>>>>>> electronic voice.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> So if you want to know how sin is defined biblically, see:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;   
   >>>>>>>>>> Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is   
   in   
   >>>>>>>>>> Christ Jesus:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Sin is missing the mark, like an arrow that falls short of the   
   target.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> And what is the target?   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> The target is the glory of God.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> And what is the remedy for sin?   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> God picks us up from where we have fallen short, and puts us back on   
   >>>>>>>>>> track.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> And the track is Orthodoxy, the straight (orthos) path to glory   
   >>>>>>>>>> (doxa).   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Glory to God!   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Were you aware then that we are not under the Mosaic Law? That sin   
   is not   
   >>>>>>>>> imputed to the account of a believer in Jesus Christ. That in the   
   >>>>>>>>> beginning   
   >>>>>>>>> sin was not imputed to man from Adam up until the time of Moses?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Oh dear, another legalist!   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Tiptoe through the TULIPs.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Please clarify, I cannot see how this is being a legalist. '   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Everybody knew you wouldn't understand.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> As an example,   
   >>>>>>> would you call someone who believes and holds true the statement of   
   Jesus   
   >>>>>>> that, “you must be born again” and that this has to be satisfied in   
   >>>>>>> order   
   >>>>>>> to be saved, that it is being a legalist?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Yet you've make it clear that you reject water baptism. You see, liar   
   boy,   
   >>>>>> it's all your way or the highway regarding the Word of God.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Hebrews 11:6   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> the dukester   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> He has you kill filed. Your insults fall upon the ears of   
   >>>>> the deaf, which is a good thing. You will no longer incite   
   >>>>> his anger. There are others he can learn the truth from   
   >>>>> that do not abuse those they teach.   
   >   
   >>>> Duke also knowingly lies about me and my position with Christ.   
   >>>   
   >>> You have no position with Jessu Christ.   
   >   
   >>     He doesn't see your posts.   
   >   
   > I know.  This is the 5th time he's kill filed me.   
   >   
   > The learning curve is applied to those that robert foolishly misled.   
   >   
   >> Truly, you are not Jesus and not   
   >>     in the position to know absolutely. Consider that Paul teaches   
   >>     that Gentiles are not under the laws as they stand but are to   
   >>     abstain from fornication and meat sacrificed to idols.   
   >   
   > Gentiles are those that have their own (g)od, like the Greeks with Zeus, the   
   > pagans, etc.   
   >   
   >>     Now you cannot have it both ways duke; either Paul was wrong   
   >>     or YOU are wrong.   
   >   
   > I don't in any way oppose Paul.  It's in understanding.   
      
      Understanding Act, or what?   
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
   >   
   >>     If Pauls gospel is truly of God then you are following the pathway   
   >>     lain out for the Jews by Jesus.   
   >   
   > Paul doesn't have a Gospel.  Paul was the first Jew conversion and sent out   
   to   
   > the expanding Church to teach them as Jesus taught him.  He is known as the   
   > great Apostle.   
   >   
   >>     If on the other hand Pauls gospel is not of God then you are correct.   
   >>     It *CANNOT* be both...   
   >   
   > Paul's message is definitely of God   
   >   
   > the dukester   
   >   
      
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