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From: none@none.net
On 6/12/2019 7:48 AM, duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 13:40:29 -0700, Robert wrote:
>
>> On Jun 11, 2019, Surrender the Name wrote
>> (in article ):
>>
>> I dislike posting to a third party, as it just tends to mix them into the
>> Frey. I would have bothered replying to someone else's post except for their
>> concluding statement.
>>
>> However, I will reply even if it is indirect to the comments made by Earl
>> Weber.
>>
>>> On 6/11/2019 7:50 AM, duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote:
>>>> Luke 6:46 New International Version (NIV)
>>>> The Wise and Foolish Builders
>>>> 46 “Why do you call me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I say?
>>>>
>>>> Here are some of the MAJOR teaching of Jesus Christ fully rejected by
>>>> Robert in thinking he knows better than Jesus.
>>
>> First, this comment is his personal opinion, and I have disagreed with Earl
>> countless times on this. (He also goes by the nym "Duke"}
>
> No, you continue to tell Jesus to "go to hell". Luke 6:46 is what Jesus
taught,
> not duke.
>
>
>>>> a. He follows his personal pope - Duane Sheriff.
>>
>> I follow no pope of any type. I posted links to a couple of his teachings
>> which are very good as well as scripturally based and taught by Jesus.
>> He is not my pastor.
>
> Pope duane is his mentor.
>
>>>> b. Robert does not believe in Jesus' Holy Mass.
>
>> There is no mention of a "Holy Mass" in the NT anywhere, and especially as
>> noted by Jesus.
>
> Stupid, Jesus taught us to worship as a group. That's the Holy Mass complete
> with scripture teachings, homily, and most important of all, spiritual
> nourishment if the Holy Eucharist.
>
>>> No wonder he will not read you, you are trying to convert him to
>>> catholicism!
>
> No, to the teachings of Jesus found in the 4 Gospels, which means they come
> directly form Jesus.
>
>>> Mat_18:20 For where there are two or three gathered together in my
>>> name, there am I in the midst of them.
>
> No group gathers, no common biblical reading, no teachings by the Celebrant,
no
> receipt of the Spiritual nourishment in the Holy Eucharist.
>
>> That is only a small part of it. When I last cut him off her made some
rather
>> personal judgments regarding my salvation, my Lord, and my person. Along the
>> same type of lines that Mmc does.
>
> Haahaahaa. Yeah. He doesn't like to be told that he lives outside of and
> contrary to the teachings of Jesus.
>
>> The word of God says to shun those people who claim to be of God, yet act
>> like that.
>
> That may come form your pagan god, but not my almighty God.
>
>>>> c. Robert rejects the 7 sacraments given by Jesus in 1) Baptism, 2)
>>>> Confession,
>>>> 3) Holy Communion, 4) Confirmation, 5) Holy Orders, 6) Holy Matrimony,
>>>> 7) Blessing of the Sick..
>>
>> Again, there are no sacraments in the Bible, anywhere.
>
> What a stupid boy. I wonder, as he has never studied the gospels, that he
> professes they don't exist.
>
>> Especially any noted by Jesus.
>> Sacraments by definition require the works of men in order to receive what
is
>> supposed to be a gift from God.
>
> Poor stupid robert.
>
> Baptism John 3:5-6, Mat 28:19, Hebrew 2:14-15
> Holy Eucharist Mat 26, Mark 14, Luke 22, 1 Cor 11
> Confession John 20:22-23, Mat 9:2-8
> Matrimony Mat 19:4-6, Mark 10:5-9, Ephesians 5:31
> Confirmation Ephesians 1:13, Acts 8:14-17, 19:5-6,
> Holy Orders Acts 13:3 & 14:23, John 20:22, 1 & 2 Tim
> Anointing Sick Mark 6:12-13, John 5:14
>
>> If there were any it would apply evenly across the board. IOW's everyone
>> would be required to get married. The rest of this is the religious
teachings
>> of men, unfounded in Christ. Especially the "Blessing of the Sick".Think
>> about it, did Jesus walk around to the sick saying bless you, bless you? Did
>> he teach "Blessed are the sick"?
>>
>> If you want to bless the sick, then HEAL THEM!
>
> Stupid robert doesn't understand that it's "GOD, BLESS YOU". The heart
> normally skips a beat in sneezing.
>
>>>> d. Robert rejects the way to treat the down and out in Mat 25:21-46 in
that
>>>> when he treats others, he also treats Jesus.
>
>> Here, Earl Weber, spreads a false witness, and does so knowingly, and with a
>> purpose. He has been known to have done such things many, many times.
>
> All he had to do was say "yes I help the needs". Instead he excuses his
hatred.
>
>> I would
>> that Earls fingers be crippled up each time he posts such things until his
>> heart is changed, that he would be struck dumb when he opens his mouth to
>> speak such things to others, like the sorcerer who plagued Paul.
>
> How filthy. I wonder if he got that from his pope duane.
>
>> Earl knows nothing of me in my personal life.
>
> 5 blockages of me and nary a word about your understanding "love your
neighbor
> as you love yourself".
>
>>> The One overriding factor is Love. If a person has no love for others
>>> then all the good deeds done will mean nothing. You must give them
>>> what they lack if it is within your power to do so. This is not a
>>> judgment on anyone but rather a truth that is meant to guide the giver.
>>
>> Yes, Love unfeigned, as the scripture teaches. One cannot give when another
>> is not willing to accept.
>>
>> "If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all
>> men."(Rom 12:18)
>
> Why do you refuse to help the needy, form locally to world wide.
>
>>>> e) Robert's walk "in" faith is specifically rejected by Jesus unless
>>>> accompanied by deeds ==> James 2:26 as mandated by Heb 11:39-40 which
>>>> states that "faith without deeds is dead faith"..
>>
>> "For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead
>> also."(Jas 2:26)
>
> Right, Jews and robert walk by faith (robert specifically said so about
> himself". Now he should at least know that Jesus added James 2:26 to the
> equation. Robert won't listen.
>
>> "And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not
the
>> promise: God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us
>> should not be made perfect."
>> (Heb 11:39,40)
>
>> Here Earl posted jive talk, where is what James wrote commanded by what Paul
>> wrote in Hebrews. Earl threw out unrelated verses to make a point which to
me
>> shows how much he values what he says. He doesn't.
>
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