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   Surrender the Name to duckgumbo32@cox.net   
   Re: Sin as defined biblically and how Go   
   19 Jun 19 17:13:02   
   
   XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife, alt.messianic, alt.religion.   
   hristian.east-orthodox   
   From: none@none.net   
      
   On 6/6/2019 4:39 PM, duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote:   
   > On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 18:17:58 -0500, Surrender the Name  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 6/5/2019 7:14 AM, duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote:   
   >>> On Mon, 03 Jun 2019 12:01:01 -0700, Robert  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On Jun 3, 2019, Surrender the Name wrote   
   >>>> (in article ):   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On 6/3/2019 7:40 AM, duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote:   
   >>>>>> On Sun, 02 Jun 2019 10:48:02 -0700, Robert  wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On Jun 2, 2019, Steve Hayes wrote   
   >>>>>>> (in article):   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On Fri, 31 May 2019 23:31:36 -0700, Robert  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> On May 31, 2019, Steve Hayes wrote   
   >>>>>>>>> (in article):   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 30 May 2019 11:58:15 -0700, Robert  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> I just listened to this yesterday, it is totally awesome. He   
   teaches   
   >>>>>>>>>>> from   
   >>>>>>>>>>> the   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Bible on how God dealt with sin and the human race from Adam until   
   now.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> This should open the eyes of understanding for many whose religion   
   puts   
   >>>>>>>>>>> them   
   >>>>>>>>>>> under the law of God. It tied up a few loose ends for me, and it   
   >>>>>>>>>>> seemed to   
   >>>>>>>>>>> fly by in 15 minutes, although the entire teaching is 50 minutes   
   long.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> I don't do podcasts and videos as they waste too much bandwidth, but   
   >>>>>>>>>> that's not a problem because I do have a Bible so I can see how sin   
   is   
   >>>>>>>>>> defined biblically without listening to man-made definitions from   
   some   
   >>>>>>>>>> electronic voice.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> So if you want to know how sin is defined biblically, see:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;   
   >>>>>>>>>> Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is   
   in   
   >>>>>>>>>> Christ Jesus:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Sin is missing the mark, like an arrow that falls short of the   
   target.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> And what is the target?   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> The target is the glory of God.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> And what is the remedy for sin?   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> God picks us up from where we have fallen short, and puts us back on   
   >>>>>>>>>> track.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> And the track is Orthodoxy, the straight (orthos) path to glory   
   >>>>>>>>>> (doxa).   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Glory to God!   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Were you aware then that we are not under the Mosaic Law? That sin   
   is not   
   >>>>>>>>> imputed to the account of a believer in Jesus Christ. That in the   
   >>>>>>>>> beginning   
   >>>>>>>>> sin was not imputed to man from Adam up until the time of Moses?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Oh dear, another legalist!   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Tiptoe through the TULIPs.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Please clarify, I cannot see how this is being a legalist. '   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Everybody knew you wouldn't understand.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> As an example,   
   >>>>>>> would you call someone who believes and holds true the statement of   
   Jesus   
   >>>>>>> that, “you must be born again” and that this has to be satisfied in   
   >>>>>>> order   
   >>>>>>> to be saved, that it is being a legalist?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Yet you've make it clear that you reject water baptism. You see, liar   
   boy,   
   >>>>>> it's all your way or the highway regarding the Word of God.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Hebrews 11:6   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> the dukester   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> He has you kill filed. Your insults fall upon the ears of   
   >>>>> the deaf, which is a good thing. You will no longer incite   
   >>>>> his anger. There are others he can learn the truth from   
   >>>>> that do not abuse those they teach.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Duke also knowingly lies about me and my position with Christ.   
   >>>   
   >>> You have no position with Christ other than to ignore him and his   
   teachings, you   
   >>> who is scared to death to review the 4 Gospels of Jesus in the NT.   
   >>   
   >>    Not so. He has spoken with me a few times about them   
   >>    and his position is clear to me.   
   >   
   > Yes, so.  Robert is void of knowledge of the 4 Gospels.  He's scared to   
   death of   
   > them.  When he quotes scripture, it's either the Jewish OT of the NT   
   Epistles,   
   > which are letters by the apostles to the expanding Church.   
      
      Duke! Jesus said clearly in the new testament that He came ONLY for   
   the Jews. He had sent His apostles to the Gentiles to show us the way,   
   so it is fitting that Robert hear their voices as the message is the   
   same good news. You and I have chosen to hear both gospels not being   
   jews. Nevertheless Jesus would have given the samaritan woman at the   
   well living water if she had asked for it.   
      
      There are millions of Gentiles that have never heard the voice of nor   
   read the gospel of Jesus that still trust in Jesus because of a gospel   
   they have heard of but never read.   
      
      
   >   
   > the dukester   
   >   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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