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|    Re: Koran says not to be friends with Je    |
|    04 Nov 19 17:56:17    |
      XPost: alt.bible, alt.christian.bible, alt.christian.religion       XPost: alt.christnet.bible, alt.christian              As is too often the jw practice, they carve out a bit to distort and       mislead.              Here a muslim web page discusses the same bit more fully;:              O YOU who have attained to faith! Do not take the Jews and the Christians       for your allies: they are but allies of one another and whoever of       you allies himself with them becomes, verily, one of them; behold, God does       not guide people who are unjust. (Quran 5:51)              This verse is often quoted to show that Islam is intolerant.              Quran is a complete book of guidance and while studying various issues it       should be kept in mind that a particular issue may be discussed       over several chapters or several verses in the same chapter. A complete       understanding can only be achieved by understanding the whole issue       as presented over all the verses and chapters and not by looking at only       part of the Quran. God specifically warns us against doing just       that, upholding part of the Quran while disregarding the rest.              .. Then is it only a part of the Book that ye believe in, and do you reject       the rest? but what is the reward for those among you who behave       like this but disgrace in this life? - and on the Day of Judgment they       shall be consigned to the most grievous penalty. For God is not       unmindful of what ye do. (Quran 2:85)       To understand the issue of befriending the Jews, Christians or people of       any other faith, we have to study all the concerned verses from the       Quran collectively.              Let us look at some other verses about this issue. The following two verses       regulate relations with any people, regardless of faith:              As for such [of the unbelievers] as do not fight against you on account of       [your] faith, and neither drive you forth from your homelands, God       does not forbid you to show them kindness and to behave towards them with       full equity: for, verily, God loves those who act equitably. (Quran       60:8)       God only forbids you to turn in friendship towards such as fight against       you because of [your] faith, and drive you forth from your       homelands, or aid [others] in driving you forth: and as for those [from       among you] who turn towards them in friendship; it is they, they who       are truly wrongdoers! (Quran 60:9)       From the above verses, we learn that we are only discouraged from       befriending those who fight Muslims because of their religion. Now let's go       back to the verse immediately after 5:51, to see if it sheds some further       light on the issue.              And yet you can not see how those in whose hearts there is disease vie with       one another for their good will (the hostile Jews and       Christians), saying [to themselves], "We do fear lest a change of fortune       bring us disaster." But God may well bring about good fortune [for       the believers] or any [other] event of His own devising, whereupon those       [waverers] will be smitten with remorse for the thoughts which they       had secretly harboured within themselves- (Quran 5:52)       During the time of the Prophet when the Jews and Christians were in open       conflict with the Muslims, there were some Muslims who were more       concerned about maintaining there alliances with the Jews and Christians at       the expense of the Muslim community. The above verse is referring       to such situations where Muslims with doubts in their hearts will ally       themselves with the enemy.              Advertisement              Chapter 5 Verse 57 of the Quran makes it clear again, who are not to be       taken as friends; O you who believe! take not for friends and       protectors those who take your religion for a mockery or sport,- whether       among those who received the Scripture before you, or among those       who reject Faith; but remain conscious of God, if you are (truly)       believers. (Quran 5:57)              God teaches us throughout the Quran that there are righteous Jews and       Christians. As such there is no prohibition for Muslims to be friends       with Jews, Christians or people of any other faith who are of good       character.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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