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   Nightbulb.net to Michael McLean   
   Re: The Witchtower Society (1/3)   
   21 Jul 22 12:34:20   
   
   XPost: alt.bible, alt.christnet.christianlife   
   From: nospam@nightbulb.net   
      
   On 7/20/22 19:11, Michael McLean wrote:   
   > Nightbulb wrote:   
   >> To allay such confusion I will spell out the truth:   
   >>   
   >> Mankind rebelled against God, and fell into mortality. God loves   
   >> mankind and is not willing that a single soul should perish. So God   
   >> sent his Son to take away the sins of the world. His Son died for ALL   
   >> sins, and wiped the slate clean for all who believe on the Son. Those   
   >> who didn't believe on the Son in that age were cast into an age of   
   >> fire and brimstone (today), to be forged by God until they are ready   
   >> to believe. Then all men, both saints and the unbelievers, will be   
   >> raised from the dead and re-united to be judged by God. God will   
   >> reward all men according to the deeds done in the flesh during the   
   >> ages of trial in fire. The dragon (religion) will be no more. All men   
   >> will inherit resurrected bodies in which there is no sin nature, and   
   >> will live forever.   
   >>   
   >> In the end not a single soul of men will be lost. All who went on to   
   >> destruction shall be restored, and will have learned the goodness and   
   >> mercy of God from the horrible experience. No one will ever speak a   
   >> word against God and his authority from that time forever.   
   >>   
   >> All men have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. There will   
   >> be no competent fact witness in the day of judgement to accuse anyone,   
   >> hence men will only be judged by the words from their own mouths! The   
   >> religious will speak words of glowing praise about their own Christian   
   >> piety. The redeemed will speak humble and remorseful words about the   
   >> goodness of God in forgiving their sins. This is how men will be   
   >> judged, by their own words!   
   >>   
   >> Those who know they have nothing to boast about in their own works   
   >> will receive the greater glory in heaven. Those who were full of their   
   >> own righteousness the lesser glory--the proud being servants to the   
   >> meek and humble.   
   >   
   > This is essentially what the Lord has been telling me, recently.   
   >   
   > Why the focus right now, I don't know, but I'm going with it! :-). As a   
   > consequence, my heart has been greatly enlarged, rather expanded in the   
   > beholding of Him, and the love for my neighbour likewise.   
   >   
   > You have made a timely appearance.  Praise the Lord.   
      
   Yes! He is telling you, me, and others. Jehovah is pulling back the   
   curtain on some things that have been hidden by church brainwashing.   
   When I open the scripture to read, it is like reading a movie, and every   
   time I come back to replay a scene I see details I didn't see the last   
   time. This is happening with others. I don't know how many, but I pray   
   it is very many very soon.   
      
   We contend with the obstinate because it shows us the mercy of God. They   
   will see his mercy in the end when they inherit unfathomable glory.   
      
   Get your sippie-cup. This is a long read.   
      
   I will say a little of what I know on a spiritual matter but I will hint   
   at my meaning rather than being literal about the whole matter.   
      
   'Elohim' in Hebrew means a mighty, spreading tree. We then see in   
   Revelation a tree over the waters, bearing twelve kinds of fruit.   
      
   "I am the trunk, ye are the branches ..."   
      
   "Every tree that bears not fruit is cut down ..."   
      
   Then there is the grafting of the wild olive branches metaphor.   
      
   'Elohim' is a special plural word, that means a composite of the root   
   word 'El' or 'Ul' and refers to turning of a wheel or axis of rotation,   
   as in the sense of mighty branches rotating around a very strong and   
   deep-rooted trunk.   
      
   'Elohim' as a plural title has a special meaning, signifying the 'royal   
   we' sense of plurality. It is not just a 'plurality of majesties' but a   
   'plurality of us' taken as one. "Hear o Israel, Jehovah our Elohim is   
   One." "Let US make man after our own image ..." This tree is much more   
   than a trinity. It is a huge tree with spreading and sprawling branches   
   that reach out into the heavens and the earth. If we parse the Hebrew   
   correctly without using English ideas a clearer picture emerges.   
      
   The ancient Hebrew, "Burrow" or "Barau" means to plant, dig, or set   
   root. It is often translated, "create" but is a formative creation like   
   growing a tree or fattening beef on the hoof, not an abracadbra creation.   
      
   Genesis 1:1 in Hebrew says (roughly in English sounds): "By Rashe burrow   
   Elohim etha Skyim vwond etha Ertz." In modern Hebrew they pronounce it:   
   "Bereshith barau Elohim et ha shamayim v'et et ha Eretz" or something   
   similar. It's been a long time since I've read the Hebrew so my memory   
   is not necessarily perfect. Modern Hebrew has a lot of vowels that don't   
   belong there that have been picked up over the centuries.   
      
   "By Rashe" is the "Chief Son" or "Firstborn" or "Only Begotten." This is   
   what it means in ancient Hebrew. "By Rashe" also means "by or through   
   the firstborn." "In the Beginning" is the KJV translation, but By Rashi   
   means "Beginning of the family." It is not a "beginning" in the sense of   
   time but rather the beginning in the sense of authority or source of   
   authority:   
      
   "Reuben, thou art my firstborn, my might, and the _beginning_ of my   
   strength, the excellency of dignity, and the excellency of power ..."   
      
   If you examine the Greek of John 1 you will see the Greek words chosen   
   there are lost in the English translation, and mean the same as the   
   Hebrew of Genesis 1 and 'beginning' in Genesis 49:3. Look up 'en arche'   
   versus 'protos.' The ancient Hebrew 'rashe' is similar to Greek 'arche'   
   and shares similar meaning. Interestingly the Siniatic Hebrew script is   
   related to the Proto-Greek script, or Phoenician script. Although the   
   languages are very different there are a lot of similarities of words,   
   which most likely are cognates from an earlier ancestor from which both   
   languages borrowed.   
      
   This brings us to Psalm 82:   
      
   "God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the   
   gods. * How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the   
   wicked? Selah. Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the   
   afflicted and needy. * Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the   
   hand of the wicked. They know not, neither will they understand; they   
   walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.   
   * I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most   
   High. But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.   
   Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations."   
      
   All debates about the creation days, length of the creation, time span   
   of the creation and so forth are pointless because Genesis was not   
   written to provide a history lesson. Even Martin Luther knew this and   
   wrote about it in great detail in his commentary on Psalm 82:   
      
      
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