XPost: alt.bible, alt.christnet.christianlife
From: none@none.com
On Jul 20, 2022, Nightbulb.net wrote
(in article ):
> On 7/19/22 22:04, Robert wrote:
> > Which renders your thoughts about God being in all men so that they can
look
> > inside yo see him as total error.
> >
> > You are a false teacher.
Nightbulb.net
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> 1. You are a false accuser.
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Oh really? Then you are unregenerate! The scripture repeately speaks of God,
the Sprit, and Christ dwelling within man, and of looking inward to the mind
where Christ dwells:
(John 14:16-17) "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another
Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; "Even the Spirit of truth;
whom the world cannot receive, _because it seeth him not_, neither knoweth
him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be _in you_."
Jesus says that God shall be inside us. Robert says it is impossible to find
God and his will by looking inside ourselves. Robert cannot receive this
spirit because Robert 'seeth him not.'
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You followed the trend of MM who claims that no man goes to hell, that God is
within man.
Then you sit in personal judgment of me. And as I have told you numerous
times you do not know me or who I am.
You also make no reference to the difference of men being born of God, and
the Gentile.
> 2. I do not claim to be a teacher. I am just a man having a discussion.
You accuse, and falsely, you use scripture that you do not understand, as if
you did, for what purpose?
>
> 3. It is you who pretends to be a teacher. I am debunking your teaching.
> I debunk the lie that the church ever had the oracles of God, because
> the church is a den of iniquity, and it is the Greco-Roman solar cult of
> Apollo and Hades.
What have I to do with any of that? The assembly had the oracles of God and
published them well. You in fact are commanded to assemble with them. Hey
10:25
>
> 4. I have been repeatedly telling you and people like you to stop
> pretending to teach because you got it wrong and you are sowing
> confusion. The church and its traditions are anti-christ.
Who is like me? You do not know me, yet you sit before me as an accuser of
the brethren.
You, like some others here are sowing lies, and bearing false witness against
me.
I have to laugh at your accusations. They are baseless with regard to me.
>
> 5. You ignored the fact that you spoke directly contrary to the
> scripture you pretend to teach.
When and where?
>
> 6. I did not say that God is in all men. I said he is in those who are
> regenerated under the new covenant, and I gave many scriptures that say
> exactly this. You ignored all that scripture and went on with your high
> and holy church teaching trying to explain why the bible is false and
> Robert's church dogma is the real truth and anyone who disagrees with
> Robert's ideas is a false teacher.
You never said that, and what you did say you said with full agreement with
MM, and I quoted your statements at the beginning of this post and the
message ID of yours from which it was taken.
>
> 7. So you have erected a strawman, then used that strawman to vilify me
> with false accusation. You have put words in my mouth, words that I did
> not say, then accused me based on your imagination. Your strawman is a lie.
Read my previous sentence again and let it sink in.
>
>
> Robert wrote:
>
> > No man is born with God or the spirit of God inside, All men are born
> > is and of evil.
>
> > There is a god in men, that being the god of this earth, Satan. There
> > is no good in him. Anyone that speaks otherwise is of Satan.
>
> But scripture says the opposite of what Robert wrote:
>
> "And thou shalt have joy and gladness; and many shall rejoice at his
> birth. For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink
> neither wine nor strong drink; and he _shall be filled with the Holy
> Ghost, even from his mother’s womb_ ..." (Luke 1:14-15)
>
> "... the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy
> Ghost: And she spake out with a loud voice, and said, Blessed art thou
> among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb." (Luke 1:41-42)
>
> "... And all they that heard them laid them up in their hearts, saying,
> What manner of child shall this be! And the hand of the Lord was with
> him." (Luke 1)
“Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.”
(Psa 51:5, KJV)
“Yea, in heart ye work wickedness; ye weigh the violence of your hands in
the earth. The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as
they be born, speaking lies.” (Psa 58:2-3, KJV)
“For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth
not.” (Ecc 7:20, KJV)
“Yea, in heart ye work wickedness; ye weigh the violence of your hands in
the earth. The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as
they be born, speaking lies.” (Psa 58:2-3, KJV)
Are you denying these truths?
If Jesus had this type of a body was John the Baptist in a better situation
than Jesus?
“For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God
sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned
sin in the flesh:” (Rom 8:3, KJV)
Because you know so little of Judaism, its Covenant with God and God with
them, and the faith they lived by as well as the annual cleansing of Sin for
the nation, but NOT any of the nation's surrounding them. That you Do no
realize the the time of Christs life on this earth was as a Jew under the
Law, and he did not deviate from following the Law, That he taught the Gospel
of the Kingdom that was to come AFTER His resurrection, it does not give you
the right to supersede anything from scripture. Nor to pass judgement while
you have a log in your eye.
>
>
> The scripture plainly says that John the Baptist was filled with the
> Spirit even before he was born. John was neither conceived in iniquity
> nor was he indwelt with the devil, as we quote Robert saying.
Show us what world he was conceived in. Show us what portion of JtB that the
spirit of God filled. Then show us where I stated that he or any man was
indwell of the spirit of satan.
>
>
> Robert side-stepped this with his strawman argument.
>
> It is Robert that pretends to be a teacher, and teaches falsely, then
> ignores his own contradictions when they are exposed. When Robert
> accuses he is speaking of his own, or projecting.
Ahh, more false witness.
>
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