XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife, alt.religion.christian.east-orthodox   
   From: dr.who@biosphere.orb   
      
   On Sep 15, 2022, Ollie Smth wrote   
   (in article):   
      
   > On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 3:08:39 PM UTC+10, Dr. Who wrote:   
   > > On Sep 12, 2022, Ted wrote   
   > > (in article):   
   > > > On Mon, 12 Sep 2022 10:49:49 -0700, Dr. Who   
   > > > wrote:   
   > > > > On Sep 12, 2022, Ted wrote   
   > > > > (in article):   
   > > >   
   > > > > > On Sun, 11 Sep 2022 22:17:18 -0700, Dr. Who   
   > > > > > wrote:   
   > > > > > > On Sep 11, 2022, Ted wrote   
   > > > > > > (in article):   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > When/where do the Bible writers stop using the plural noun to   
   > > > > > refer   
   > > > > > > > to God? And why?   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Just what word do you call a plural noun?   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > > 'ĕlôhı̂ym   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > > BDB Definition:   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > > 1) (plural)   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > > 1a) rulers, judges   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > > 1b) divine ones   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > > 1c) angels   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > > 1d) gods   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > > 2) (plural intensive - singular meaning)   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > > 2a) god, goddess   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > > 2b) godlike one   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > > 2c) works or special possessions of God   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > > 2d) the (true) God   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > > 2e) God   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Part of Speech: noun masculine plural   
   > > > > > > This word and its variants was used from the beggining for all   
   > > > > > peoples If you   
   > > > > > > are speaking of this word It was used for a lot of things. And   
   > > > the   
   > > > > > word is   
   > > > > > > used throughout the Old testament. It like "el" was also used   
   > > > as a   
   > > > > > generic   
   > > > > > > word for god, just like today when people use the word "god" in   
   > > > a   
   > > > > > generic   
   > > > > > > sense.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Jehovah is the name that Jesus gave to Moses to tell the   
   > > > Israelites   
   > > > > > that he   
   > > > > > > was to be known as their god, the God of the Jew.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > > "LORD" in the OT was a substitute word used for Jehovah To   
   > > > pretend   
   > > > > > that it   
   > > > > > > was a different meaning from the word Lord or lord. The old   
   > > > > > languages did not   
   > > > > > > use "Caps".   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > > This is prolly more than you cared to   
   > > > > > > know. :)   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Nah, I'm quite fond of the Bible as so always want to learn as   
   > > > much   
   > > > > > as I can about it, so thank you.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Yes, Elohim is plural. The question was, when did God change from   
   > > > > > plural to singular and why. ... And you gave a great answer, as   
   > > > God's   
   > > > > > revealing his name to Moses was indeed a significant and important   
   > > > > > landmark. But the switch from plural to singular preceded it.   
   > > >   
   > > > > The God of heaven never changed. Jesus always existed, Jesus is   
   > > > Jehovah in   
   > > > > the flesh.   
   > > >   
   > > > > The word Elohim was modified by men who constructed their own Gods   
   > > > in the   
   > > > > form of Idols which were and are singular, even the idol "trinity"   
   > > > had only   
   > > > > one body but with three heads. There are derivatives of the word   
   > > > Elohim yet   
   > > > > the godhead remains the same.from   
   > > > > eternity past through to eternity future.   
   > > >   
   > > > Do you not believe in the Trinity?   
   > > No. I believe in God, his firstborn son, and the Holy Spirit of God the   
   > > Father.   
   >   
   > But isn't Jesus God Himself?   
      
   Who is the Holy Spirit? If a person is filled with the Holy Spirit, who are   
   they?   
      
   Heb 10:5 and 10   
      
   5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering   
   thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me: Heb 10:10   
      
   10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of   
   Jesus Christ once for all.   
      
   What sayeth the scriptures, what sayeth thee?   
      
   >   
   >   
   > > The trinity is no where mentioned in any shape in the Bible, and you can   
   ask   
   > > ten people that are knowledgeable and prolly get ten different answers.   
   > > There   
   > > are various church doctrines that are carry overs from the RCC and Orthodox   
   > > churches that were just accepted as truth due to their long standing   
   > > traditions of men. This is one of them,   
      
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