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   Dr. Who to All   
   Re: Illumination - was What exactly didJ   
   22 Sep 22 22:34:12   
   
   XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife   
   From: dr.who@biosphere.orb   
      
   On Sep 22, 2022, Ollie Smth wrote   
   (in article):   
      
   > On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 7:50:03 AM UTC+10, servant wrote:   
   > > One poster remarks upon the similarity of on what basis the robert/dr. who   
   > > duality asserts he should be heeded:   
   > > > > And while it might be possible that they actually are two separate   
   > > > > entities, I consider both the latest instantiation of the Platonic   
   > > > > idea of the Self-Directed Protestant who only needs a Bible and the   
   > > > > "confirmation of the spirit" to know all things.   
   > > Robert/ who dirictly displays that very thing. He asserts he has a HS   
   > > based wifi connection to heaven. It is for him part of a divination   
   > > method to confirm his lone ranger religious ideas. Below he commits a   
   > > baisic amateur lone ranger bible reader mistake. One of the basic rules is   
   > > to know the context of to whom remarks are directed in scripture. The   
   > > below is directed to the apostles only; as He was just about to asend and   
   > > shortly before the coming of the HS at penecost. There is no indication in   
   > > the context that He is making universal directives for the next 2000 years,   
   > > let alone speaking of robert/dr. who "theories of scripture".   
   > > for all bible readers.   
   > >   
   > > Robert makes his pitch for his asserted wifi connection to the divine and   
   > > how it confirms his religious lone ranger ideas in line with wof guru   
   > > pronouncements.   
   > >   
   > > Note the self serving questioning of another person's spiritual status at   
   > > the end based on robert/dr. who amateur lone ranger bible reading mistakes   
   > > of use/comprehension of scripture:   
   > > > I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.   
   > > > Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all   
   > > > truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear,   
   > > > that   
   > > > shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me:   
   > > > for   
   > > > he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. All things that the   
   > > > Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and   
   > > > shall   
   > > > shew it unto you.Ä (Joh 16:12-15)   
   >   
   > As before noted: This was specific to His Disciples as to what lies ahead for   
   > them as we can see later at Pentecost onwards.   
   > Not universal application of a promise to all Christians at large otherwise   
   > the gospel writer would have expressed his account likewise.   
      
   First off scripture was written under this inspiration of the Holy Ghost and   
   not the minds of men. Secondarily,...   
      
   Joh 17:18-23   
      
   18As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the   
   world.   
      
   19And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified   
   through the truth.   
      
   20Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me   
   through their word;   
      
   21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that   
   they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent   
   me.   
      
   22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be   
   one, even as we are one:   
      
   23I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that   
   the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast   
   loved me.   
      
   Likewise this is the contextual understanding of the Gospel.   
      
   >   
   >   
   > Timothy was exhorted in his ministry to " ... rightly dividing the word of   
   > truth." 2 Tim 2:15.   
   > Taking a passage out of context would not be 'rightly dividing' IMHO.   
   >   
   > > > This is the word of the Lord Jesus Christ. That you would doubt it   
   because   
   > > > it   
   > > > is from a bible, and thus mock it, then leaves you in a position of a   
   life   
   > > > without faith.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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