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   From: dr.who@biosphere.orb   
      
   On Sep 22, 2022, Ollie Smth wrote   
   (in article<4e4b3f81-bb4c-4ca7-8cbf-4298a1719671n@googlegroups.com>):   
      
   > On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 12:14:53 PM UTC+10, Dr. Who wrote:   
   > > On Sep 22, 2022, P+Barker wrote   
   > > (in article<58spih17b3nrdi1a0...@4ax.com>):   
   > > > On Thu, 22 Sep 2022 15:13:30 -0700, Dr. Who   
   > > > wrote:   
   > > >   
   > > > > On Sep 22, 2022, P+Barker wrote   
   > > > > (in article):   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > On Thu, 22 Sep 2022 13:36:02 -0700, Dr. Who   
   > > > > > wrote:   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > > On Sep 22, 2022, P+Barker wrote   
   > > > > > > (in article):   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > On Thu, 22 Sep 2022 10:14:10 -0700, Dr. Who   
   > > > > > > > wrote:   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > On Sep 22, 2022, P+Barker wrote   
   > > > > > > > > (in article):   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 21 Sep 2022 11:13:26 -0700, Dr. Who   
   > > > > > > > > > wrote:   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 21, 2022, P+Barker wrote   
   > > > > > > > > > > (in article):   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 20 Sep 2022 16:45:14 -0500, Rod  wrote:   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/20/2022 5:57 AM, P+Barker wrote:   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 19 Sep 2022 17:39:00 -0500, Ro   
      
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/18/2022 4:23 PM, P+Barker wrote:   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 18 Sep 2022 12:49:10 -0500,   
   Rod   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/17/2022 12:09 PM, Dr. Who wrote:   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 17, 2022, P+Barker wrote   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (in article<90hbihh8nhipvbrvm...@4ax.com>):   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Who  wrote:   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > God turned the previous religious people   
   who sought to   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > follow   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > after   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > queen   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of heaven, and turned them all over to   
   her, after he tried   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > caution them,   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > look at their outcome. And if you study   
   Catholicism you   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > find   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that they   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > substituted Mary for a pagan woman god   
   that they could   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worship   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > her   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > similar   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the pagan goddess. Yes, I greatly over   
   simplified it.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or you just made up some stupid shit.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not read it for yourself?   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know about what Patrick has done, but   
   I have read it.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > God was not speaking of Mary as His target.   
   The egyptians did   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > worship   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Osiris as God and ISIS as the queen of Heaven,   
   and the Hebrews   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > took   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that worship, even after having left egypt.   
   This is what the   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > verse   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > speaking of in my opinion.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Two things here.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Some dorks here (robt) feel that the Bible   
   was written by   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > God.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > + If this is so, why would he mention some pagan   
   woman?   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Mary, Mother of Jesus, is not Isis, never was.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You miss the point Patrick. Isis is not a goddess   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AND the title Queen of Heaven belongs to Inanna,   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who was promiscuous to say the least. Now, do you   
   want   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to assign that title, sullied as it is to the   
   mother   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of God??   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > It depends.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > WHo do you claim is the queen of country music?   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > That will be just as wrong.   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > My point exactly.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > However, should we chastize a person for making a claim?   
   > > > > > > > > > > > It is mute.   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And if someone wants to call her Queen of   
   heaven, why does   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > anyone   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > care?   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > I just told you why!   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > If you actually think Catholics substituted Mary for a   
   pagan woman   
   > > > > > > > > > > > god, and if you really think we wish to WORSHIP Mary,   
   then you are   
   > > > > > > > > > > > sadly mistaken.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > Mary is the Mother of Jesus. She was specifically chosen   
   for this   
   > > > > > > > > > > > role by our Creator. She was human, all human.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > Whereas God is God. And Jesus is God who became man.   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > History bears it out, and why do you pray to Mary and not   
   your   
   > > > > > > > > > > Grandma?   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > I network with whoever has an ear and a voice.   
   > > > > > > > > > And, I'm pretty sure my mom AND my grandma are both in   
   heaven also.   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > If so would they have the same access to Jesus as you believe   
   Mary   
   > > > > > > > > does,   
   > > > > > > > > and   
   > > > > > > > > with the same power of influence?   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > Probably not the same.   
   > > > > > > > A person's own mother would probably be closer.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > To God than Mary?   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Mary was the Mother of Jesus.   
   > > > >   
      
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