XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife   
   From: dr.who@biosphere.orb   
      
   On Sep 22, 2022, Ollie Smth wrote   
   (in article):   
      
   > On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 3:34:14 PM UTC+10, Dr. Who wrote:   
   > > On Sep 22, 2022, Ollie Smth wrote   
   > > (in article):   
   > > > On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 7:50:03 AM UTC+10, servant wrote:   
   > > > > One poster remarks upon the similarity of on what basis the robert/dr.   
   who   
   > > > > duality asserts he should be heeded:   
   > > > > > > And while it might be possible that they actually are two separate   
   > > > > > > entities, I consider both the latest instantiation of the Platonic   
   > > > > > > idea of the Self-Directed Protestant who only needs a Bible and the   
   > > > > > > "confirmation of the spirit" to know all things.   
   > > > > Robert/ who dirictly displays that very thing. He asserts he has a HS   
   > > > > based wifi connection to heaven. It is for him part of a divination   
   > > > > method to confirm his lone ranger religious ideas. Below he commits a   
   > > > > baisic amateur lone ranger bible reader mistake. One of the basic   
   rules is   
   > > > > to know the context of to whom remarks are directed in scripture. The   
   > > > > below is directed to the apostles only; as He was just about to asend   
   and   
   > > > > shortly before the coming of the HS at penecost. There is no   
   indication in   
   > > > > the context that He is making universal directives for the next 2000   
   > > > > years,   
   > > > > let alone speaking of robert/dr. who "theories of scripture".   
   > > > > for all bible readers.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Robert makes his pitch for his asserted wifi connection to the divine   
   and   
   > > > > how it confirms his religious lone ranger ideas in line with wof guru   
   > > > > pronouncements.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Note the self serving questioning of another person's spiritual status   
   at   
   > > > > the end based on robert/dr. who amateur lone ranger bible reading   
   mistakes   
   > > > > of use/comprehension of scripture:   
   > > > > > I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.   
   > > > > > Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you   
   into all   
   > > > > > truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall   
   hear,   
   > > > > > that   
   > > > > > shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall   
   glorify me:   
   > > > > > for   
   > > > > > he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. All things   
   that the   
   > > > > > Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine,   
   and   
   > > > > > shall   
   > > > > > shew it unto you.Ä (Joh 16:12-15)   
   > > >   
   > > > As before noted: This was specific to His Disciples as to what lies ahead   
   > > > for   
   > > > them as we can see later at Pentecost onwards.   
   > > > Not universal application of a promise to all Christians at large   
   otherwise   
   > > > the gospel writer would have expressed his account likewise.   
   > > First off scripture was written under this inspiration of the Holy Ghost   
   and   
   > > not the minds of men. Secondarily,...   
   > >   
   > > Joh 17:18-23   
   > >   
   > > 18As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into   
   > > the   
   > > world.   
   > >   
   > > 19And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified   
   > > through the truth.   
   > >   
   > > 20Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on   
   > > me   
   > > through their word;   
   > >   
   > > 21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee,   
   that   
   > > they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent   
   > > me.   
   > >   
   > > 22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be   
   > > one, even as we are one:   
   > >   
   > > 23I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that   
   > > the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou   
   hast   
   > > loved me.   
   > >   
   > > Likewise this is the contextual understanding of the Gospel.   
   >   
   > Yea. verily .......... where the "they" and "them" refer specifically to His   
   > Disciples cf.v.9, not universally to all Christians at large.   
      
   Nice, you completely blew past verse 20 which specified for whom he was   
   praying.   
      
   Personally I am grateful that he prayed such for me, as well as all others   
   from that time on who are and were willing to receive from the Lord.   
      
   “Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye   
   sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.” (Jas 4:8)   
      
   Here is another promise of the Heavenly Father. One that I depend on, also   
   stated in the OT times.   
      
   God is no respecter of person, what he does for one he is willing to do for   
   all. So why should anyone cut off their nose to spite their face?   
      
   >   
   >   
   > > > Timothy was exhorted in his ministry to " ... rightly dividing the word   
   of   
   > > > truth." 2 Tim 2:15.   
   > > > Taking a passage out of context would not be 'rightly dividing' IMHO.   
   > > >   
   > > > > > This is the word of the Lord Jesus Christ. That you would doubt it   
   > > > > > because   
   > > > > > it   
   > > > > > is from a bible, and thus mock it, then leaves you in a position of a   
   > > > > > life   
   > > > > > without faith.   
      
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