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From: dr.who@biosphere.orb
On Sep 25, 2022, Ollie Smth wrote
(in article<62388010-6d6c-4065-8295-a3aec6b4d1can@googlegroups.com>):
> On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 1:58:19 PM UTC+10, Dr. Who wrote:
> > On Sep 22, 2022, Ollie Smth wrote
> > (in article<31931c3e-d094-4aa9...@googlegroups.com>):
> > > On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 9:51:40 PM UTC+10, P+Barker wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 20 Sep 2022 17:00:28 -0500, Rod wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 9/20/2022 5:57 AM, P+Barker wrote:
> > > > > > On Mon, 19 Sep 2022 17:39:00 -0500, Rod wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 9/18/2022 4:23 PM, P+Barker wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Sun, 18 Sep 2022 12:49:10 -0500, Rod
wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 9/17/2022 12:09 PM, Dr. Who wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Sep 17, 2022, P+Barker wrote
> > > > > > > > > > (in article<90hbihh8nhipvbrvm...@4ax.com>):
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Who wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > God turned the previous religious people who sought to
follow
> > > > > > > > > > > > after
> > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > queen
> > > > > > > > > > > > of heaven, and turned them all over to her, after he
tried to
> > > > > > > > > > > > caution them,
> > > > > > > > > > > > look at their outcome. And if you study Catholicism
you will find
> > > > > > > > > > > > that they
> > > > > > > > > > > > substituted Mary for a pagan woman god that they could
worship her
> > > > > > > > > > > > similar
> > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > the pagan goddess. Yes, I greatly over simplified it.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Or you just made up some stupid shit.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Why not read it for yourself?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I don't know about what Patrick has done, but I have read
it. But
> > > > > > > > > God was not speaking of Mary as His target. The egyptians
did worship
> > > > > > > > > Osiris as God and ISIS as the queen of Heaven, and the
Hebrews took
> > > > > > > > > up
> > > > > > > > > that worship, even after having left egypt. This is what the
verse is
> > > > > > > > > speaking of in my opinion.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Two things here.
> > > > > > > > 1. Some dorks here (robt) feel that the Bible was written by
God.
> > > > > > > > + If this is so, why would he mention some pagan woman?
> > > > > > > > 2. Mary, Mother of Jesus, is not Isis, never was.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You miss the point Patrick. Isis is not a goddess
> > > > > > > AND the title Queen of Heaven belongs to Inanna,
> > > > > > > who was promiscuous to say the least. Now, do you want
> > > > > > > to assign that title, sullied as it is to the mother
> > > > > > > of God??
> > >
> > > Wow. This is all new to me.
> > >
> > > > > > It depends.
> > > > > > WHo do you claim is the queen of country music?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > And if someone wants to call her Queen of heaven, why does
anyone
> > > > > > > > care? No one has ever been there and come back. No one knows
what is
> > > > > > > > happening there. I am aware that the Knights of Columbus has a
> > > > > > > > special VIP section there.
> > > > >
> > > > > Patrick! The name of Inanna is Accadian. It means literally Queen of
> > > > > Heaven, Goddess of Harlots.
> > > > I have no idea of who Inanna is.
> > > > I do not equate her with Mary, the Mother of Jesus Christ.
> > > > And I don't know of any practicing Catholic who does either.
> > >
> > > Same, here.
> > > I dunno where these details or claims come from - needs references for
> > > support the claims - otherwise, they come across as generalisations and
> > > sweeping statements.
> > >
> > > These claims may be a Modernist take on our church history [that
> > > Christianity
> > > is based on myths and legends etc.].
> > > Contempory examples of Modernism, I can think of, are "The Golden Bough",
> > > "Holy Blood Holy Grail", "The daVinci Code" etc.
> > >
> > > The church has always rejected Modernism.
> > >
> > > But, perhaps, there is outside folk who know more about ourselves than we
> > > ourselves that these Modernist elements still persist.
> > Where in the word of God do you find support for Mary=ism? And why was it
> > not
> > found until after the founding of the RCC, and upon what was it based? Did
> > you ever bother to look and verify any of it?
> >
> > Given God's distaste for the title of "Queen of Heaven", how then can you
> > justify that which God opposed, and left the Jews on their own to follow
her
> > with non of the benefits of Judiasm?
>
> No.
>
> We don't worship Mary or saints or any other.
> We know it's wrong.
Yes, it is wrong, and yes, they all worship Mary and the Saints. There is
nothing in the word of God that supports their icons and statues, that
supports prayers to them for any reason. The kissing of icons and statues,
even the kissing of a statue of Jesus or his icon is idolatry. Kneeling of
bowing before their images is pure idolatry. Burning candles, incense, use of
"holy water" is all idolatry. Using a rosary is Idolatry.Idolatry is
worshipping pure and simple.
Show me from scripture where I am wrong.
If you do none of those things they you are free of them, but you used the
term "We". Sorry Roy, Cloaking idolatry and worship with another word so as
to pretend you are not doing any of these things does not justify the evil
thereof.
If you can show me where God supports any of those activities I will be more
than glad to say I was wrong, but to see millions of people bamboozled by a
false gospel is not something I should be silent on. Jesus said to to pray
repetitious prayers as the heathen do, and he should know best. Rosary?
I pray that your eyes and ears be opened unto the Lord Jesus Christ in these
things, and more.
--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)
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