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   From: dr.who@biosphere.orb   
      
   On Oct 9, 2022, pyotr filipivich wrote   
   (in article):   
      
   > Dr. Who   on Sun, 02 Oct 2022 11:02:15 -0700   
   > typed in alt.christnet.christianlife the following:   
   > > On Oct 2, 2022, pyotr filipivich wrote   
   > > (in article<4a8jjh92h4j6hfdc6al9frkvlq7oftfo2h@4ax.com>):   
   > >   
   > > > Dr. Who   on Sun, 25 Sep 2022 13:16:44 -0700   
   > > > typed in alt.christnet.christianlife the following:   
   > > > > On Sep 25, 2022, Dr. Who wrote:   
   > > > > > On Sep 25, 2022, pyotr filipivich wrote:   
   > > > > > > Ollie Smth  on Thu, 22 Sep 2022 20:16:40   
   -0700   
   > > > > > > (PDT) typed in alt.christnet.christianlife the following:   
   > > > > > > > > > > > You miss the point Patrick. Isis is not a goddess   
   > > > > > > > > > > > AND the title Queen of Heaven belongs to Inanna,   
   > > > > > > > > > > > who was promiscuous to say the least. Now, do you want   
   > > > > > > > > > > > to assign that title, sullied as it is to the mother   
   > > > > > > > > > > > of God??   
   > > > > > > > Wow. This is all new to me.   
   > > > > > > Funny how these "modernists" want to have a more ... "inclusive"   
   > > > > > > religion, not based upon the monarchical model of antiquity, but   
   > > > > > > something more modern and up to date. God as CEO of Heaven Inc -   
   and   
   > > > > > > they are on the board of directors, too.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > “But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the   
   > > > > > commandment of God by your tradition? For God commanded, saying,   
   Honour   
   > > > > > thy   
   > > > > > father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him   
   die the   
   > > > > > death. But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother,   
   It   
   > > > > > is a   
   > > > > > gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; And honour not   
   his   
   > > > > > father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the   
   commandment   
   > > > > > of   
   > > > > > God of none effect by your tradition. Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias   
   > > > > > prophesy   
   > > > > > of you, saying, This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth,   
   and   
   > > > > > honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. But in   
   vain   
   > > > > > they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of   
   men.”   
   > > > > > (Mat   
   > > > > > 15:3-9)   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Fits todays "ancient churches to a "T".   
   > > >   
   > > > Actually, Robert, I'd say that it fits modern American   
   > > > Evangelicalism better. Which is merely the logical development of the   
   > > > "reformation" which in turn had merely expanded the Roman idea that   
   > > > one man has the authority to set Dogma and "Truth". But we've been   
   > > > over that before.   
   > >   
   > > So you admit that the RCC and the Orthodoxy are the originators of that   
   > > concept?   
   >   
   > Nope. But I can see why you feel that relieves you of a terrible   
   > burden.   
      
   Is there a shred of honesty within you?   
   >   
   > > Thank You.   
   > >   
   > > It fits all religions who have their rites and rotes outside the will of   
   > > God.   
   >   
   > Oh, like the Word of Faith Prophets preaching prosperity?   
   > Or those who practice "altar calls"?   
      
   You, like your girlfriend make no distinction between prosperity of the   
   believer in Christ, and those who seek easy money and are false teachers.   
   Why? Neither of you are familiar with the desires of God or his word.   
   >   
   > > >   
   > > >   
   > > > >   
   > > > > PS: Don't forget the add-on of Mary and Saint worship with idols,   
   icons,   
   > > > > etc.   
   > > > > all added hundreds of years after the resurrection of Jesus Christ and   
   the   
   > > > > writings of the known and fully accepted New Testament.   
   > > >   
   > > > Like I said: these "modernists" want a more inclusive religion,   
   > > > not based upon the monarchical model of antiquity, but something more   
   > > > modern and up to date. God as CEO of Heaven Inc - and they are on the   
   > > > board of directors, too.   
   > > >   
   > > > Anything they feel could not possibly have been the True Intention   
   > > > of the Founders must be an import from some other organization, and   
   > > > there by wrong.   
   > > >   
   > > > Robert is definite: nothing written other than New Testament is   
   > > > authoritative, so he doesn't have to concern himself with what was   
   > > > actually recorded as the actual practice of Christians from the first   
   > > > century.   
   > >   
   > > I am definite in believing all of Gods word, Old and New Testaments, and   
   > > always have been.   
   > >   
   > > 2Ti 3:16-17   
   > >   
   > > 16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for   
   > > doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:   
   > >   
   > > 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good   
   > > works.   
   > >   
   > > What is His Word profitable for?   
   > >   
   > > According to your thinking the early churches mistakes should be carried   
   > > through until this day and beyond.   
   > >   
   > > Jesus was totally opposed to that idea.   
   >   
   > Like I said, Robert claims to know more about what the early   
   > church believed before they wrote it all down, than they did.   
      
   That is an amazingly ignorant statement. We know what they thought based on   
   the written word. It was given by God, and testified to by His Spirit, and   
   the witnesses of those who saw the risen Saviour as well as His departure. As   
   he returned to be with His father.   
      
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