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   From: duckgumbo32@cox.net   
      
   On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 07:51:42 -0500, old man joe  wrote:   
      
   >  predestination, as far as God's salvation plan to pardon sin is concerned,   
   simply   
   >put, is the working of God in the actual salvation of those whom He chose to   
   save   
   >before He created the universe and all things good in it, as Eph. 1:3-12   
   declares.   
      
   God chooses to save us all.  But not all of us are willing to accept.  Don't   
   blame it on God, blame it on our own failures and our lack of desire to   
   improve.   
      
      
   The Dukester, American-American   
   *****   
   "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."   
   Pope Paul VI   
   *****   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)