home bbs files messages ]

Forums before death by AOL, social media and spammers... "We can't have nice things"

   alt.religion.roman-catholic      Jonah is the original Jaws story...      1,366 messages   

[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]

   Message 434 of 1,366   
   Clarence to bestowed.com   
   Re: If salvation is conditional, then th   
   11 Feb 09 07:10:35   
   
   XPost: alt.christnet.eucharist, alt.christnet.bible-thumpers, al   
   .christnet.holy-spirit   
   XPost: alt.christnet.christian, alt.religion.end-times.prophecies,   
   alt.christnet.second-coming   
   XPost: alt.christnet.calvinism, alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic   
   From: cdumont@telusplanet.net   
      
   "old man joe"  wrote in message   
   news:o4m2p4d5j0nbd0na6ifhhv612rns8sjdls@4ax.com...   
   >   
   >  mental retardation can be from a birth defect; the result of disease or   
   > an   
   > accident; a near death experience such as a heart attack where the brain   
   > is deprived   
   > of oxygen... even the result of an allergic reaction to medication...   
   >   
   >  too bad for these folks that they haven't " made a decision for Christ "   
   > and filled   
   > all the conditions placed on them by co-redeemers.   
   >   
   >  " they had their chance while they were well " is the usual position held   
   > by the   
   > co-redeemers.   
   >   
   >  Christ is powerless to cleanse them of their sins since He didnt get   
   > their   
   > permission to save them while they could be saved... yet, the co-redeemers   
   > say Christ   
   > died for " everyone. "  except for these folks stricken with mental   
   > retardation...   
   > unless of course, the co-redeemers pronounce these folks automatically   
   > saved because   
   > they never had a chance to co-redeem themselves because of this horrible   
   > birth   
   > defect, or accident or disease...   
   >   
   >  that would mean, for the mentally retarded born so, these are saved   
   > without filling   
   > conditions and salvation then is unconditional for them at least... it's   
   > not unusual   
   > for non-Biblical religionists to preach several kinds of plans of   
   > salvation.   
   >   
   >  and that much is true by their exposition of Jn. 3:16.   
   >   
   >  whether the reader interprets this verse to mean salvation is conditional   
   > or   
   > unconditional, the verse still explains salvation to be limited and   
   > effectual only   
   > for the believer.   
   >   
   >  thanks be to God in Christ that since " none seek for God " salvation is   
   > not based   
   > on man... unregenerate man finds the things of God " foolishness "... that   
   > is why God   
   > so designed salvation to be all of Him and none of man.  Ps. 3:8   
      
      I n order to repent a person must first sin, a mentaly retarded person   
   can not sin therefore does not need to repent, and will be saved, so will   
   all the children.   
      Why dont you try to study the Scriptures??   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]


(c) 1994,  bbs@darkrealms.ca