XPost: alt.atheism, alt.abortion   
   From: Apostate@yeehaw.org.invalid   
      
   On Sat, 05 Mar 2011 17:00:04 -0500, MarkA wrote:   
      
   >I asked this of an anti-abortion/forced-birth/pro-life poster in another   
   >thread, and never got a reply. I sincerely would like some input from   
   >someone who believes that life starts at conception, and first/second   
   >trimester fetuses have a "right to life".   
   >   
   >A fertility clinic fertilizes an egg, and allows it to divide once. The   
   >two daughter cells are separated, and one is frozen. The other is allowed   
   >to continue dividing, and is eventually implanted into a woman's uterus,   
   >where it grows to term, resulting in a healthy baby and happy parents.   
   >   
   >So, what *is* the other cell? Is it a separate person, who has his/her   
   >own "right to life"? Or, is it just a cell, discarded from the person who   
   >has already been born, as we shed cells all the time?   
   >   
   >If it is its own person, why wasn't it its own person if it weren't   
   >separated? Are we all actually 100,000,000,000,000 separate people,   
   >sharing the same body?   
   >   
   >If it is not its own person, would it become a person if thawed, and   
   >allowed to develop into a new fetus? That would imply that personhood is   
   >something that comes with a certain degree of development, which the   
   >pro-lifers deny.   
      
      
   If you took embryology (and I assume you did) you'll remember about tricking   
   an ovum into   
   a pseudo-fertilized state by pricking the cell membrane (is it enough time   
   elapsed to   
   acknowledge the pun yet?) There's bound to be an excuse for spinning that   
   supplementary   
   'ensoulment' occurs at the instant of separating the two daughter cells.    
   Catholics are   
   the World Masters of rationalized arguments.   
      
      
   --   
   Apostate alt.atheist #1931 plonktheist #1   
   BAAWA Knife AND SMASHer freelance Minion #'e'   
   EAC Deputy Director in Charge of Getting Paid,   
    Department of Redundancy Department   
      
   "The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure   
    and the intelligent are full of doubt." -- Bertrand Russell   
      
   "Mr. Worf, set phasers on "Fuck You" and fire at will."   
    -- Doc Smartass   
      
   "Nature has a dark sense of humor, but life is certainly   
   one of the things it laughs at."   
    -- Rinaldo of Capadoccia   
      
      
   e-mail to %mynick%periodaaperiod%myAA#%@gee!mail!dottedcommie   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   
|