XPost: alt.society.liberalism, alt.politics.liberalism, soc.culture.usa   
   XPost: alt.atheism   
   From: dead@gone.com   
      
   On Sat, 03 Mar 2012 12:30:05 -0600, Dånk 42Ø wrote:   
      
   > I support the right to birth control and abortion, but I wonder whether   
   > the government should be paying for it or forcing others to pay for it.   
      
   In other words you don't support the right.   
   >   
   > The government is attempting to force religious institutions to include   
   > birth control services in their health insurance plans, even if birth   
   > control violates their religious teachings.  The issue is bigger than   
   > just birth control, since one can question the government's power to   
   > mandate what services must be included in private health care plans.   
   > Cosmetic surgery?  Penis implants?  Viagra?  But that debate is for   
   > another thread.   
   >   
   > On the issue of whether a Catholic organization, for example, should be   
   > forced to provide birth control and abortion services in its employees'   
   > health care plan, the solution is simple -- they should drop all   
   > coverage and let the employees purchase whatever insurance policies they   
   > want.   
   >   
   > There is no law requiring employers to provide health insurance.  An   
   > employer who pays $1000 monthly health insurance premium per employee is   
   > free to drop coverage and give the $1000 directly to the employee and   
   > let her use it to purchase her own policy, one that does or doesn't   
   > cover birth control pills, whatever she CHOOSES to (liberalism is all   
   > about CHOICE).   
   >   
   > The problem with this idea is that during the Obamacare debate several   
   > years ago, Democrats refused to allow tax deductions for individual   
   > health insurance policies.  The employer who provides health insurance   
   > can deduct the $1000 from his taxable income, but the employee who   
   > purchases an individual policy must pay tax on that $1000 -- 25% or   
   > $250.   
   >   
   > There is no reason why health insurance premiums are not deductible,   
   > except that Democrats want to be dicks and make everyone dependent on   
   > employer-provided plans, plans that are then loaded up with mandates   
   > (like birth control) until they become too expensive and the employers   
   > drop them, making everyone dependent on government-run Obamacare.   
      
      
      
      
      
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