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   Message 918 of 1,366   
   Ted&Alice to Alex W.   
   Re: Bible Verses for the Holiday Season   
   31 Dec 15 13:04:38   
   
   XPost: alt.atheism, alt.religion.christian   
   From: ted@nd.alice   
      
   Alex W. wrote:   
      
   > On 30/12/2015 23:18, Ted&Alice wrote:   
   > > Alex W. wrote:   
   > >   
   > > > On 30/12/2015 01:04, Ted&Alice wrote:   
   > > > > Alex W. wrote:   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > On 29/12/2015 21:52, Ted&Alice wrote:   
   > > > > > > Alex W. wrote:   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > On 28/12/2015 22:35, Ted&Alice wrote:   
   > > > > > > > > talishi wrote:   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > On 12/27/2015 10:09 PM, Ted&Alice wrote:   
   > > > > > > > > > > As you know, there are thousands of Protestant   
   > > > > > > > > > > sects.  They all have varying levels of acceptance   
   > > > > > > > > > > and rejection of the OT scriptures.   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > But the important thing to take away is that God is   
   > > > > > > > > > not the author of confusion!   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > That might be one argument in favor of the Roman   
   > > > > > > > > Catholic faith.   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > If it had to be a Christian denomination, try the Church   
   > > > > > > > of England (Episcopalians in Leftpondia).   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > They take the injunction very seriously that "in my   
   > > > > > > > father's house are many mansions".  The CofE will bend   
   > > > > > > > over backwards and then some to accommodate any sort of   
   > > > > > > > variant belief or religious practice.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > I agree that the CofE is preferrable in that sense to the   
   > > > > > > RCC, but I meant from a logical point of view, since they   
   > > > > > > claim to be directly derived from Jesus's rock(hard?)   
   > > > > > > assignment to Peter.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Don't they all?   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Rome does make great play of their descent from Peter and   
   > > > > > Paul, but in the end they all claim authority from the bible   
   > > > > > which supersedes any mere apostle....   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Yes, but that's another consistency in Catholic doctrine. They   
   > > > > believe that their administration has the authority to interpret   
   > > > > the Bible as they wish, even rejecting parts of it.   
   > > > >   
   > > >   
   > > > Again, all churches do this -- even if they do not realise what   
   > > > they are doing.  Different denominations do have different   
   > > > bibles, and translations also differ.  For instance, Armenians   
   > > > include a third letter to the Corinthians; the Ethiopian church   
   > > > has a rather larger NT canon than anyone else; Copts are taught   
   > > > two letters of Clement; Catholics and Protestants have a   
   > > > different numbering system for the ten commandments; and so on.   
   > > >   
   > > > This provides me with a source of never-ending amusement, of   
   > > > course.  A great many believers simply do not realise that their   
   > > > bible is not the only version, have never conceived of the notion   
   > > > that there are different versions out there.  And it absolutely   
   > > > flummoxes the sola scriptura loonies...   
   > >   
   > > There are even some of them who think the KJV is the original.   
   > >   
   >   
   > That would be Americans.   
   > The rest of the world usually knows that there are other languages   
   > out there, and that many of them came before English...   
   >   
   > In this context, I will freely admit to owning and consulting a King   
   > James bible.  To my mind, it is an essential reference book in any   
   > well-sorted personal library and one of the three most important   
   > bodies of work that largely determined the shape of our language   
   > (together with the Oxford English Dictionary and Shakespeare).   
   > Believer or atheist, if one does not know one's KJV then one does not   
   > know the history of our protean magical utterly beautiful tongue!   
      
   I was surprised to learn that so many people have no idea what's   
   contained in the Bible, not to mention a lot of the memorable and   
   poetic KJV wording that I would've thought was as commonly known as   
   Shakespeare.   
      
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