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   From: maximusheadroom@gmx.com   
      
   In news:th50ckleim0kmelmnf7ai3pe8281h3tohv@4ax.com, Governor Swill   
    typed:   
      
   > On Mon, 8 Sep 2025 20:52:20 -0700, "max headroom" wrote:   
   >> Governor Swill typed:   
   >>> On Mon, 8 Sep 2025 14:57:22 -0700, "max headroom" wrote:   
   >>>>"Cunt Flaps" Canoza  typed:   
   >>>>>  Max the Magnificent typed:   
   >>>>>> Governor Swill typed:   
   >>>>>>> On Sun, 7 Sep 2025 pothead wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On 2025-09-07, Governor Swill wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On Sun, 7 Sep 2025 14:14:15 -0000 (UTC), pothead wrote:   
      
   >>>>>>>>>> Oh and BTw, a person CAN get an ID at the post office that allows   
   >>>>>>>>>> them to vote. It's called a passport.   
      
   >>>>>>>>> Why should I get a passport in order to vote?  I've been voting for   
   >>>>>>>>> over half a century on voter reg cards and/or my driver's license.   
   >>>>>>>>> You going to tell me I can't vote anymore unless I spend a bunch of   
   my   
   >>>>>>>>> time and money getting a passport I don't otherwise need?   
      
   >>>>>>>> No.  I'm addressing whomever claimed you can't get a voter   
   >>>>>>>> ID at the post office.   
      
   >>> IOW, a passport.   
      
   >>>>>>> And I want to know why anybody would want to force me to spend 8 weeks   
   >>>>>>> and $200 getting a voter ID.   
      
   >>>>>> No one is forcing you. Most people go to the county courthouse and get   
   >>>>>> one for free.   
      
   >>> A passport?  Free?  From my local courthouse?   
      
   >>A voter ID, brainiac..   
      
   > Reread the thread, idiot.  Burch Cassidy (who is probably Rudy) said   
   > you can't get an ID at the post office.  Poohead corrected him because   
   > you can get a passport at the post office.   
      
   > And to repeat, you can't get a photo ID valid for voting at   
   > courthouses.  Photo IDs are issued by DMVs or State Patrols and do not   
   > prove citizenship.  You can only get paper, photoless voter ID at   
   > Courthouses and these days many red states won't accept a voter ID   
   > card in order to vote.  They insist on photo ID thus the topic of this   
   > thread.   
      
   >>>>> The county courthouse doesn't issue *photo* IDs that establish proof of   
   >>>>> citizenship, Master.   
      
   >>>>It *does* issue voter registration cards, a "voter ID."   
      
   >>> Which is not a "photo ID", doesn't certify citizenship and will not   
   >>> get you a ballot in a photo ID state.   
      
   >>If your county will register you to vote without proof of citizenship,   
   perhaps   
   >>you should write to your state reps.   
      
   > Every place I've ever lived has done that.  I've always used only my   
   > DL to register to vote.  In fact, changing my DL in new state or   
   > renewing my DL is how I usually register to vote since motor voter   
   > laws are ubiquitous.   
      
   Which is one way non-citizens get on the voter rolls.   
      
   >>> States issue DLs and for non drivers, State ID cards as well.  A few   
   >>> states offer vote specific photo IDs for folks with no DL or State ID   
   >>> but this is not common.   
      
   >>> Real ID cards and gold star DLs don't certify citizenship either. They   
   >>> only certify legal presence.  To prove citizenship, a US passport or   
   >>> US birth certificate is required.   
      
   >>Any government-issued photo ID card along with your voter registration card   
   >>should score you a ballot.   
      
   > Yes, but that does not prove citizenship.  Why do you keep moving the   
   > goal posts?   
      
   EXCUSE ME?!?  It wasn't me who brought proof of citizenship into this thread.   
      
   >>> Since BCs are typically printed on standard paper and without photo,   
   >>> they can be easily forged.   
      
   >>Certified copies can't.   
      
   > Most certainly they can.  Anything that's ink on paper can be forged....   
      
   Don't all have a watermark or seal?   
      
   > Hell, plastic photo IDs can be forged!   
      
   Tell me about it! I've seen my share, complete with holograms.   
      
   > And btw, I once had a certified copy of my BC rejected by a DMV   
   > because it was so old and faded, "I can't read this."   
      
   >>> This takes us right back to $200 passports, headusupassus.   
      
   >>> Care to try again?   
      
   >>Any government-issued photo ID card along with a certified copy of your birth   
   >>certificate or naturalization should score you a voter registration card and   
   a   
   >>ballot   
      
   > OR naturalization?  Moving the goal posts again?   
      
   Just trying to be more inclusive. [vbg]   
      
   > What if your birth certificate was issued in Madiera, Portugal?   
      
   Unless your parents were American citizens or you have a certificate of   
   naturalization, you're SOL.   
      
   > To repeat, only photo ID is needed to get a voter reg card....   
      
   Since you have both, you're good to go vote.   
      
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