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|    Capt. Kirk to Lou Bricano    |
|    Re: Pam Blondi's ignorance of first amen    |
|    19 Sep 25 15:42:25    |
      XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.atheism, alt.fun       XPost: alt.politics.democrats.d, talk.politics.guns       From: x@y.com              Lou Bricano wrote:              >Pam Bondi had to walk back her ‘hate speech’ comments — for good       >reason       >       >The attorney general previously threatened to “go after” Americans       >who express “hate speech,” but the nation’s top cop should know       >better.       >       >By Thomas Berry, director of the Robert A. Levy Center for Constitution       >Studies at the Cato Institute       >Sept. 17, 2025, 4:31 PM PDT       >       >On Monday, Attorney General Pamela Bondi warned that this administration       >“will absolutely target you, go after you, if you are targeting anyone       >with hate speech.”       >       >But that is simply not allowed under the First Amendment, at least as the       >Supreme Court has applied it for more than half a century. The nation’s       >chief law enforcement officer should know better. There is no “hate       >speech” exception to the First Amendment. Not surprisingly, after a       >fierce backlash from many of the Trump administration’s allies, Bondi       >has since attempted to walk back her statement, claiming that she was       >speaking only of “hate speech that crosses the line into threats of       >violence.”       >       >Bondi’s comments came in the wake of the murder of Charlie Kirk, to       >which some have reacted by saying Kirk was not worthy of being mourned.       >As distasteful as Bondi and many others may find these comments, they are       >constitutionally protected. Even celebrations of Kirk’s murder could       >not be punished by the government. The Supreme Court made that clear in a       >case that similarly dealt with disrespect of the dead.       >       >In Snyder v. Phelps (2011), the Supreme Court considered a lawsuit       >against the Westboro Baptist Church, a small sect that brought attention       >to itself by protesting at soldiers’ funerals with offensive signs,       >carrying messages like “Thank God for Dead Soldiers.” The father of       >one such soldier sued the church, arguing that one such protest at his       >son’s funeral had brought him intense emotional distress.       >       >But in an 8-1 decision, the Supreme Court held that the protest was       >protected by the First Amendment and the father could not win damages       >from the church. In an understatement, the court acknowledged that the       >choice to picket at a soldier’s funeral “made the expression of [the       >church’s] views particularly hurtful to many.”       >       >Nonetheless, as the Supreme Court explained, “Such speech cannot be       >restricted simply because it is upsetting or arouses contempt.” As the       >court had held in Texas v. Johnson (1989) — upholding the First       >Amendment right to burn an American flag — it is “a bedrock principle       >underlying the First Amendment … that the government may not prohibit       >the expression of an idea simply because society finds the idea itself       >offensive or disagreeable.” The court reaffirmed that “the point of       >all speech protection … is to shield just those choices of content that       >in someone’s eyes are misguided, or even hurtful.”       >       >Why does the First Amendment protect hurtful speech like disrespect for       >the dead? After all, as the court acknowledged, “funeral picketing is       >certainly hurtful and its contribution to public discourse may be       >negligible.”       >       >But it would be dangerous to allow the government to become the arbiter       >for what speech is tasteful and inbounds. There is simply too much risk       >that policymakers and enforcement officers would use that power to shut       >down debate or suppress disfavored views by means of biased application.       >As the court put it, we “must tolerate insulting, and even outrageous,       >speech in order to provide adequate ‘breathing space’ to the freedoms       >protected by the First Amendment.”       >       >This principle has been reaffirmed in several Supreme Court cases. It       >applies not just to speech disparaging particular people, but to entire       >groups. In Matal v. Tam (2017), the Supreme Court struck down a law that       >prohibited trademarking terms or slogans that may be disparaging to       >people or groups. As Justice Samuel Alito wrote in his plurality opinion,       >“Speech that demeans on the basis of race, ethnicity, gender, religion,       >age, disability, or any other similar ground is hateful; but the proudest       >boast of our free speech jurisprudence is that we protect the freedom to       >express ‘the thought that we hate.’”       >       >https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/pam-bondi-hate-speech-first-am       >endment-comments-rcna231768?fbclid=IwY2xjawM6UIdleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHjI2pIwR1       >W2vWcB1M5uqCCSZ9CokO4QdYsKaN7PoT_DAvFtmBpENk7iHw7Xv_aem_2o_c-7ZCJvMKWpwNZw       >8KSQ       >       >Blondi is a fucking peroxide blonde moron.       >              She's a fucking blonde bimbo tRUMP DEI hire. No excuse.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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