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   From: karvatt@gmail.com   
      
   On 10/16/2025 2:48 PM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless   
   chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:   
   >   
   >   
   > "Attila" wrote in message   
   > news:o5r0fkt12ek35c3582i9tpgspp7ch6dtoo@4ax.com...   
   >> On Thu, 16 Oct 2025 02:20:52 +0000, Mitchell Holman   
   >> in alt.atheism with message-id   
   >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> Attila wrote in   
   >>> news:5e00fktjfmlqdqs4d6thk6sltvjvqpqmi8@4ax.com:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 12:28:49 -0700, nickname unavailable   
   >>>> <"because_\\shitbag\\_was_taken"@gmail.com> in alt.atheism   
   >>>> with message-id wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On 10/15/2025 12:30 AM, Attila wrote:   
   >>>>>> On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 02:30:58 +0000, Mitchell Holman   
   >>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id   
   >>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> "Scout" wrote in   
   >>>>>>> news:10cmt7j$3bi15$1@dont-email.me:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> "Attila" wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>> news:56dtektkuimtbidskj24681mv4bi17a8fm@4ax.com...   
   >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Oct 2025 15:21:47 -0700, nickname unavailable   
   >>>>>>>>> <"because_\\shitbag\\_was_taken"@gmail.com> in alt.atheism   
   >>>>>>>>> with message-id <0GfGQ.311385$2R62.62622@fx13.iad> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> If you're using undocumented people's tax records to find them   
   >>>>>>>>>> and kidnap them,   
   >>>>>>>>>> then it was never about them not paying taxes.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Legal deportation is not kidnapping.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> If you're showing up at their places of employment, then it was   
   >>>>>>>>>> never about them   
   >>>>>>>>>> not working.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Correct.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> If you're showing up and kidnapping them at courthouses, then it   
   >>>>>>>>>> was never about   
   >>>>>>>>>> them not doing it "the right way."   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> The right was is to not enter the country illegally.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> If you're kidnapping women and children, then it was never about   
   >>>>>>>>>> criminals.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Legal deportation is not kidnapping.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> If you're not giving them due process, then it was never about   
   >>>>>>>>>> the Constitution.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> They did not seek "due process" when they sneaked in   
   >>>>>>>>> illegally.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Seems to me that process dates back to Obama who allowed expedited   
   >>>>>>>> deportation without a trial.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> There is no such thing as a deportation trial.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> They ARE required to have a hearing.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Which Obama provided.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> And Trump does not.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> No hearing was required for illegal entry.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> The immigrants don't owe anyone any "hearing." They do not owe anyone   
   >>>>> due process. They are *entitled* to due process when the state is   
   >>>>> depriving them of liberty and property.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> That is a court ruling, and I disagree.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> It is not a court ruling, it is the CONSTITUTION.   
   >>>   
   >>> "nor shall any State deprive any person of life,   
   >>> liberty, or property, without due process of law;   
   >>> nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction   
   >>> the equal protection of the laws."   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Not any citizen.   
   >>>   
   >>> ANY PERSON   
   >>>   
   >> We will se if the SC agrees as to the intent.   
   >   
   > Seems to me that Obama was the one that enacted federal law   
      
   Obama didn't "enact" any federal law, scooter. Congress, not the president,   
   enacts the law.   
      
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