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From: MeanDog@Menace.Dash
On Mon, 03 Nov 2025 18:58:44 +0000, Mitchell Holman
wrote:
>Attila wrote in
>news:32hhgklt312uqupp3ul27p4st1vni7rfo7@4ax.com:
>
>> On Mon, 03 Nov 2025 13:59:22 +0000, Mitchell Holman
>> in alt.atheism with message-id
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Attila wrote in
>>>news:brahgk1b2umle8493b7p3is7v4k6nuovpd@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 2 Nov 2025 23:09:52 -0800, Salty Stan
>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>> <5zYNQ.237243$0vja.216464@fx35.iad> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 10/26/2025 8:14 AM, Attila wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 26 Oct 2025 13:41:08 +0000, Mitchell Holman
>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Attila wrote in
>>>>>>> news:074rfklkg5lortcr4sg22vkusg9e4g3i67@4ax.com:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 26 Oct 2025 02:22:38 +0000, Mitchell Holman
>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> nickname unavailable <"because_\\shitbag\\_was_taken"@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote in news:1taLQ.348609$RrE7.292641@fx45.iad:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 10/25/2025 11:42 AM, No_Leftists_Here wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 25 Oct 2025 10:10:38 -0700, nickname unavailable
>>>>>>>>>>> <"because_\\shitbag\\_was_taken"@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regardless of "how" the country is selected, do you think
>it's
>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>>>>>> to deport someone to a country to which they have no
>>>>>>>>>>>> connection?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The illegals
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No such thing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> can deport themselves to anywhere they want.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Why do you pretend to be concerned — actually, obsessed —
>>>>>>>>>> with unlawful presence?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Answer: you're not. That's just the fig leaf or smokescreen for
>>>>>>>>>> your racism. You don't really care about immigration status per
>>>>>>>>>> se. What you care about is their race/ethnicity. If there were
>>>>>>>>>> 10 million
>>>>>>> white
>>>>>>>>>> northern Europeans — Finns, Swedes, Norwegians, Danes, Irish,
>>>>>>>>>> Dutch — unlawfully present in the country, you wouldn't say a
>>>>>>>>>> thing. We know this about you. The issue for you and your
>fellow
>>>>>>>>>> Nazi "Attila" is race and ethnicity — nothing else.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The irony is that America has ALWAYS
>>>>>>>>> depended on foreign immigrant labor. The
>>>>>>>>> indentured workers from England, the Irish,
>>>>>>>>> the Germans, Chinses coolies, African slaves,
>>>>>>>>> Mexicans.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Even now farmers have to fly in workers
>>>>>>>> >from JAMAICA because no one else will do the
>>>>>>>>> job.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As long as they are here legally there is no problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How much extra do you want to pay
>>>>>>> for produce becuase expensive Jamaicans
>>>>>>> are being used instead of cheap migrants?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It has been suggested a program be set up to legally allow
>>>>>> farm workers in during the season. Congress has yet to pass
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>
>>>>>You stupid fuck. There *is* such a program already. It's called H-2A
>>>>>visas. Look it up, you stupid lying ignorant fuck.
>>>>
>>>> Ok Then there is no reason to say farmers need illegals to
>>>> harvest crops.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What is the cost for a farmer to fly in
>>>workers from Jamaica vs the cost of hiring
>>>workers gathered at his fence ready to being
>>>harvesting?
>>>
>>> And who ultimately pays that cost?
>>>
>>
>> The American taxpayer if the illegals are allowed in.
>
>
>
>
>
>Undocumented immigrants contribute more to
>Social Security than they receive in benefits
>MAy 1
>
>"Immigrants overall actually help bolster
>the finances of Social Security," said
>Jack Smalligan, a senior policy fellow at
>the Urban Institute and co-author of a
>proposal to address Social Security's
>trust fund shortfall in part by increasing
>employment and family-based visas.
>"Immigrants are very important right now,
>especially as we see a very low birth rate
>among Americans. Immigrants tend to be
>younger and contribute to Social Security
>throughout their lifetime."
>
>Legal immigrants and many undocumented
>workers without employment authorization
>pay Social Security taxes, analyses show.
>Some undocumented immigrants use fake
>Social Security numbers or ones they may
>have had before their work permits lapsed.
>
>In 2022, for example, undocumented
>immigrants paid nearly $100 billion in
>federal, state and local income taxes,
>including nearly $26 billion in Social
>Security taxes and $6.4 billion in
>Medicare taxes, according to the
>Institute on Taxation and Economic
>Policy, a left-leaning think tank.
>(The report takes into account both
>employer and employee contributions
>to Social Security and Medicare taxes.)
>
>"The federal government is essentially
>receiving free money from these
>undocumented immigrants," said Marco
>Guzman, senior analyst at the institute.
>"They are contributing to a system they
>will not benefit from. Who is benefiting?
>It's American citizens."
>
>For instance, the surge of immigrants
>in recent years is expected to boost
>Social Security's revenues by $348
>billion between 2024 and 2034,
>according to a Congressional Budget
>Office analysis released last year.
>Over the same period, these folks
>will collect only about $1 billion,
>the CBO projected.
>
>https://edition.cnn.com/2025/05/01/politics/undocumented-immigrants-
>social-security
CNN??? Really?
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